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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      Perhaps it's my Christmas Present to SCF...

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/penguin-1.gif
      👍 👍

      😎
      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/rul1ek75-1.gif

      *s

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      • jolranJ Offline
        jolran
        last edited by

        Cool idea, TIG! 👍

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        • D Offline
          darospa
          last edited by

          fantastic!!!! a great help for architectural drawings instead of cheap renderings

          thank you

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          • utilerU Offline
            utiler
            last edited by

            @tig said:

            @utiler said:

            Neat TIG!! DO you ever get time to work for money???
            This is a little like GOH's 1001Shadows, right?
            http://www.1001shadows.com/en/index.html
            👍

            Not the same thing, this shows shadows cast on selected faces by objects, I don't have that tool but I think 1001shadows projects all onto the 'ground' [of course if you have a ground-plane face selected my tool does the same]. My tool also has options of displaying the shadows - from a line, to a face, to a face with statistics...

            That's pretty cool, TIG. 👍

            purpose/expression/purpose/....

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            • pbacotP Offline
              pbacot
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              Something cool about this but not sure how someone makes use of it. Is it only so you can export a polygon and use it in a CAD rendering (2d)?

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @pbacot said:

                Something cool about this but not sure how someone makes use of it. Is it only so you can export a polygon and use it in a CAD rendering (2d)?
                It's as useful as you think up uses for it... 😕
                For example, checking the % of solar shading on some selected glazing at a certain Date/Time.
                Getting the area [sq'/sqm] of perhaps some selected glazing or a solar-panel that's receiving [or not receiving] direct sunlight...
                Because faces using a translucent material don't show normal shadows you can now use this tool to add a visible translucent 'gray' shadow-group face [with no edges] onto selected window-glass etc, to fake these shadows in a Sup render...
                DAE files etc don't contain shadow info but you can now include a faced snapshot of the shadows if desired.
                I only invented the tool - you lot need to come up with uses for it... 😉

                TIG

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                • simon le bonS Offline
                  simon le bon
                  last edited by

                  Dear Tig,

                  @tig said:

                  Because faces using a translucent material don't show normal shadows you can now use this tool to add a visible translucent 'gray' shadow-group face [with no edges] onto selected window-glass etc, to fake these shadows in a Sup render...

                  That was exactly what I wanted to experiment: colored glasses and their colored shadows...

                  Glasses and bottle are drawn , but 😕 I can't make to "ShadowProjector" draw their shadows.. Probably too complex shapes.

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thShadowProjector_TIG_002.jpg

                  😒 simon

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                  • D Offline
                    driven
                    last edited by

                    Simon,
                    what scale are you trying at, is it a small triangle issue... just a thought
                    john

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      Hi John

                      You are right in the way I never take enough care of the scale !!! 😉
                      In this occurrence, the scale is not too small but too big: a glass of 135cm width !! You may be thirsty 😲


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thShadowProjector_TIG_004.jpg

                      ++simon

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Is the orange face 'reversed' - view in Monochrome mode to see.
                        Shadows are only cast onto front faces.
                        Also there is an issue with tiny faces/holes and groups/instances placed exactly onto a face and casting a shadow.
                        I'm doing a fix now...

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=371243#p371243
                          1.1 20111214 Addressed issues with tiny faces/holes and group/instance sitting on face whilst casting a shadow.

                          TIG

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Hi TIG 😉

                            This tool is a great idea ++ 👍
                            I'm very sorry The updated rb doesn't work at all and anymore for me (and the first version is overwrited arghhh!).

                            Please can you pick an eye on my following SketchUp 7 model ?

                            TIG_shadowProjector002.skp

                            Sorry for trouble 😕

                            ++simon

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @simon le bon said:

                              Hi TIG 😉

                              This tool is a great idea ++ 👍
                              I'm very sorry The updated rb doesn't work at all and anymore for me (and the first version is overwrited arghhh!).

                              Please can you pick an eye on my following SketchUp 7 model ?

                              [attachment=1:12he1z9c]<!-- ia1 -->TIG_shadowProjector002.skp<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:12he1z9c]

                              Sorry for trouble 😕

                              ++simon
                              I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...
                              [attachment=0:12he1z9c]<!-- ia0 -->Capture.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:12he1z9c]
                              I don't have v1.0 either 😒 [lost it!]
                              I'll investigate...


                              Capture.PNG

                              TIG

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
                                last edited by

                                Hi TIG,

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...

                                Me too 👍 😉

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_005.jpg

                                I'm going to test the ShadowProjector with incremental complexity models...

                                thank you for your patience and kindness

                                *s

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Hiding the glass, or putting it onto an 'off' layer work too...

                                  TIG

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear TIG

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...


                                    Hiding the glass, or putting it onto an 'off' layer work too...

                                    As I can conclude , ShadowProjector not only take in account the geometry casted by the shadowed selected face, but also the entire geometry of the model.😒
                                    😕

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I'm going to test the ShadowProjector with incremental complexity models...

                                    Alas ShadowProjector is stopped by the first model 😕

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_006.jpg

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_007.jpg

                                    TIG_shadowProjector_incrementalComplexity.skp

                                    Simon.

                                    PS1: I am not happy to be the one who show the tool limitations 😳

                                    PS: [Plugin] Teapot (1.0.0) — 01 December 2009

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      You are right.
                                      It would be better/quicker if it found only the objects potentially casting shadows on the face...
                                      BUT the algorithm to do that robustly is beyond me [at the moment].
                                      So at the moment it checks everything that's active for shadow casting even when it doesn't even cast a shadow on the face.
                                      So I suggest that keep the 'active entities' simple [using temporary grouping?] and do small sets of shadows...

                                      TIG

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Here's v1.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=371243#p371243
                                        Its speed and error trapping are improved.
                                        It now limits its purview to potential shadow-casting objects and is therefore quicker... 😲

                                        TIG

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Because faces using a translucent material don't show normal shadows you can now use this tool to add a visible translucent 'gray' shadow-group face [with no edges] onto selected window-glass etc,

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_009.jpg

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_010.jpg

                                          As it is, it's already a great tool dear TIG

                                          Thank you so much to make SketchUp each day growing as a wonderful application

                                          ++simon

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                                          • dereiD Offline
                                            derei
                                            last edited by

                                            I can't use the plugin 😞 It crashes my model all the time. I made a magnifier glass and a ground plane (face) . I selected the face, that was oriented with front upwards (the shadow projected on front face), then ran the plugin. ... First time it made a grouped face over my selected one. Now it just crashes every time.
                                            Model attached.


                                            magnifier.skp

                                            DESIGNER AND ARTIST [DEREI.UK](http://derei.uk/l)

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