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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by

      Hi TIG 😄 ☀

      How many smart tools from you I haven't tested? a bunch of them I guess: it's a pity (but they are carefully bookmarked 😉 ).

      This one one more time, is full of potential 👍 👍 👍


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thShadowProjector_TIG_001.jpg

      +++
      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/759.gif
      simon

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Perhaps it's my Christmas Present to SCF...
        I've been working on it for some time... and I finally got a moment to polish if up for its release...

        TIG

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        • mitcorbM Offline
          mitcorb
          last edited by

          Hi, TIG:
          Another great tool from you.

          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            Perhaps it's my Christmas Present to SCF...

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/penguin-1.gif
            👍 👍

            😎
            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/iSimon/rul1ek75-1.gif

            *s

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            • jolranJ Offline
              jolran
              last edited by

              Cool idea, TIG! 👍

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              • D Offline
                darospa
                last edited by

                fantastic!!!! a great help for architectural drawings instead of cheap renderings

                thank you

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                • utilerU Offline
                  utiler
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  @utiler said:

                  Neat TIG!! DO you ever get time to work for money???
                  This is a little like GOH's 1001Shadows, right?
                  http://www.1001shadows.com/en/index.html
                  👍

                  Not the same thing, this shows shadows cast on selected faces by objects, I don't have that tool but I think 1001shadows projects all onto the 'ground' [of course if you have a ground-plane face selected my tool does the same]. My tool also has options of displaying the shadows - from a line, to a face, to a face with statistics...

                  That's pretty cool, TIG. 👍

                  purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    Something cool about this but not sure how someone makes use of it. Is it only so you can export a polygon and use it in a CAD rendering (2d)?

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @pbacot said:

                      Something cool about this but not sure how someone makes use of it. Is it only so you can export a polygon and use it in a CAD rendering (2d)?
                      It's as useful as you think up uses for it... 😕
                      For example, checking the % of solar shading on some selected glazing at a certain Date/Time.
                      Getting the area [sq'/sqm] of perhaps some selected glazing or a solar-panel that's receiving [or not receiving] direct sunlight...
                      Because faces using a translucent material don't show normal shadows you can now use this tool to add a visible translucent 'gray' shadow-group face [with no edges] onto selected window-glass etc, to fake these shadows in a Sup render...
                      DAE files etc don't contain shadow info but you can now include a faced snapshot of the shadows if desired.
                      I only invented the tool - you lot need to come up with uses for it... 😉

                      TIG

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        Dear Tig,

                        @tig said:

                        Because faces using a translucent material don't show normal shadows you can now use this tool to add a visible translucent 'gray' shadow-group face [with no edges] onto selected window-glass etc, to fake these shadows in a Sup render...

                        That was exactly what I wanted to experiment: colored glasses and their colored shadows...

                        Glasses and bottle are drawn , but 😕 I can't make to "ShadowProjector" draw their shadows.. Probably too complex shapes.

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thShadowProjector_TIG_002.jpg

                        😒 simon

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                        • D Offline
                          driven
                          last edited by

                          Simon,
                          what scale are you trying at, is it a small triangle issue... just a thought
                          john

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Hi John

                            You are right in the way I never take enough care of the scale !!! 😉
                            In this occurrence, the scale is not too small but too big: a glass of 135cm width !! You may be thirsty 😲


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thShadowProjector_TIG_004.jpg

                            ++simon

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Is the orange face 'reversed' - view in Monochrome mode to see.
                              Shadows are only cast onto front faces.
                              Also there is an issue with tiny faces/holes and groups/instances placed exactly onto a face and casting a shadow.
                              I'm doing a fix now...

                              TIG

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Here's v1.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=371243#p371243
                                1.1 20111214 Addressed issues with tiny faces/holes and group/instance sitting on face whilst casting a shadow.

                                TIG

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi TIG 😉

                                  This tool is a great idea ++ 👍
                                  I'm very sorry The updated rb doesn't work at all and anymore for me (and the first version is overwrited arghhh!).

                                  Please can you pick an eye on my following SketchUp 7 model ?

                                  TIG_shadowProjector002.skp

                                  Sorry for trouble 😕

                                  ++simon

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @simon le bon said:

                                    Hi TIG 😉

                                    This tool is a great idea ++ 👍
                                    I'm very sorry The updated rb doesn't work at all and anymore for me (and the first version is overwrited arghhh!).

                                    Please can you pick an eye on my following SketchUp 7 model ?

                                    [attachment=1:12he1z9c]<!-- ia1 -->TIG_shadowProjector002.skp<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:12he1z9c]

                                    Sorry for trouble 😕

                                    ++simon
                                    I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...
                                    [attachment=0:12he1z9c]<!-- ia0 -->Capture.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:12he1z9c]
                                    I don't have v1.0 either 😒 [lost it!]
                                    I'll investigate...


                                    Capture.PNG

                                    TIG

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi TIG,

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...

                                      Me too 👍 😉

                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_005.jpg

                                      I'm going to test the ShadowProjector with incremental complexity models...

                                      thank you for your patience and kindness

                                      *s

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Hiding the glass, or putting it onto an 'off' layer work too...

                                        TIG

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          Dear TIG

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I can get it to work with reduced complexity [removing the 'glass']...


                                          Hiding the glass, or putting it onto an 'off' layer work too...

                                          As I can conclude , ShadowProjector not only take in account the geometry casted by the shadowed selected face, but also the entire geometry of the model.😒
                                          😕

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          I'm going to test the ShadowProjector with incremental complexity models...

                                          Alas ShadowProjector is stopped by the first model 😕

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_006.jpg

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ShadowProjector_TIG_007.jpg

                                          TIG_shadowProjector_incrementalComplexity.skp

                                          Simon.

                                          PS1: I am not happy to be the one who show the tool limitations 😳

                                          PS: [Plugin] Teapot (1.0.0) — 01 December 2009

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            You are right.
                                            It would be better/quicker if it found only the objects potentially casting shadows on the face...
                                            BUT the algorithm to do that robustly is beyond me [at the moment].
                                            So at the moment it checks everything that's active for shadow casting even when it doesn't even cast a shadow on the face.
                                            So I suggest that keep the 'active entities' simple [using temporary grouping?] and do small sets of shadows...

                                            TIG

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