Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED
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I'll add this to topic. About the relation between science and religion. I know nothing about quantum, but my friends physicians told me science and religion are beginning to merge on quantum level.
"In today’s world we tend to perceive the world in the classical mode, yet we could, and sometimes do, perceive aspects of it in the direct mode as well. However, our left-hemisphere dominated perceptual mode represses information that doesn’t accord with our established ways of thinking. Only in spiritual, religious, or mystical experience does such information penetrate to our everyday awareness - and then, just fleetingly."
http://artoflivingguide.org/thinking/cosmic-symphony-deeper-look-quantum-consciousnessI'd say it is hard to discuss this things using only classical mode of thinking. And that's where all the misunderstandings are. For unknown things one need intuition. Believing needs all human, not only his logic, which is IMO a small part of him. The biggest problem is to admit it (pride). The smarter you are, the harder it is.
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@unknownuser said:
Who had a form of faith, but fell, and never returned, fits into these two possibilities:
- He just had the impression of being ‘born again’ and had no from where to fall, because he actually trusted in himself, in his merits. He knew something ABOUT God, but did not KNOW HIM, closely, intimate…, even if he attended any church for decades.
You presume much in suggesting that someone whom you don't at all know 'trusted in himself, in his merits.' I would presume no such thing. If some day, some tragedy befell you - you lost a child, you suffered abuse from the church, etc. and you turned your back on God it wouldn't change all of the years of your past which were spent trusting in him and knowing him.
@unknownuser said:
- He sinned again, in any way, and believes that there is no more salvation for him, because he does not know how God resolve it...
I couldn't quite make out what you were trying to get at with this second point. I think you said you were from Canada earlier. Are you a native english speaker? Much of your sentence structure is difficult for me to decipher.
-Brodie
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@unknownuser said:
Are you a native english speaker? Much of your sentence structure is difficult for me to decipher.
Sorry, 'Brodie' for my poor english grammar...! English is my 3rd language!
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Mine too. I gave up on my first 2.
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I think this sums up my views on Religion.
[flash=853,505:1thcpqqm]http://www.youtube.com/v/1IAhDGYlpqY&fs=1[/flash:1thcpqqm]
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I think people are beginning to understand that the wolf of Rome masked himself in the lamb skin of Christ...but there still is true light from the Orthodox source.
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@unknownuser said:
I think this sums up my views on Religion.
Oh no, not this video again. It's just a bunch of contradictions.....The guy says he hates religion but, loves the church, the bible and Jesus. If that isn't still religion I'll eat my sox.
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@unknownuser said:
Please post a vid on YouTube.
I would, but it still is a religion, so no cotton fiber in my tummy today. -
As a Christian I appreciate the message he's trying to get across. The dichotomy between the sort of works based system of the world and relationship based system of God. However, I would tend to side with the atheists on this one in saying that this sort of popular movement to suggest Christianity isn't a religion is simply well intentioned equivocation. I hope atheists don't miss the point that's being raised here, but I think it's clear that Christianity fits any normal definition of the word "religion" and to suggest otherwise is just a sort of rhetorical dishonesty.
-Brodie
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@unknownuser said:
(...) I think it's clear that Christianity fits any normal definition of the word "religion" and to suggest otherwise is just a sort of rhetorical dishonesty.
Word.
Marian, less talking, mo' eating.
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Dear colleagues, it is evident that some of you have not yet studied the whole Bible, but quickly jump in for contradicting…
I recommend that after you finish reading the Holy Scripture, go through books explaining how God works, like “KNOWING God”, by J.I.PACKER, book with following content:I KNOW THE LORD
1 The Study of God
2 The People Who Know Their God
3 Knowing and Being known
4 The Only True God
5 God Incarnate
6 He ShallTestifyII BEHOLD YOUR GOD!
7 God Unchanging
8 The Majesty of God
9 God Only Wise
10 God’s Wisdom and ours
11 Thay Word Is Truth
12 The Love of God
13 The Grace of God
14 God The Judge
15 The Wrath of God
16 Goodnessand Severity
17 The Jealous GodIII IF GOD BE FOR US…
18 The Heartof the Gospel
19 Sons of God
20 Thou Our Guide
21These Inward Trials
22 The Adequacy of GodAfter that, it will be much easier for you to understand my ‘language’…!
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@solo said:
Similar to understanding mental illness after visiting an asylum.
You are erroneous, ‘Solo’, because you start with preconceptions!
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@solo said:
.... so I bid y'all farewell until the next controversial topic.
did Satan create The Federal Reserve?
[EDIT] did Satan or Satans create...
and did you ever notice santa and satan are pretty much the same
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Satan was my cousin's dog.
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Here's Satan and God in the midst of their eternal battle
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@ ‘Rich O’Brian’ (and other, similar…), You play with ‘fire’…!
At Galatians 6:7 is written:
“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows!”P.S.: Take into account the fact that Satan does not agree to be underestimated and incited...!
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I look forward to spending eternity hangin out with Satan, beats the hell out of hanging around with close minded, brainwashed, proselytising, harp playing fundaMentalists like you.
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@box said:
I look forward to spending eternity hangin out with Satan, beats the hell out of hanging around with close minded, brainwashed,
..."I look forward to spending eternity" with God!
I believe in the only true God (John 17:3) revealed in the Scriptures as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). I believe in the oneness (Deut. 6:4), the trinity (Matthew 3:16-17) and the trinity unified as one God (Matthew 28:19).
God is a spirit (John 4:24), infinite and perfect in all His attributes (Psalms 139:1-12), the One that CREATED ALL THINGS (Rev. 4:11), and keeps all things through the power of His Word (Hebrews 1:3).
In Him we live, we move and have our being (Acts 17:28).
He is the SOURCE, the SUSTAINMENT and the FINALITY of all things (Romans 11:36).
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