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    • jbacusJ Offline
      jbacus
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      @unknownuser said:

      Where should we send that list?

      Thanks- this will really help us figure out what is going on. You might just post it here, if you don't mind doing that. Alternately, you can PM Tricia for alternatives.

      john
      .

      "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

      John Bacus
      jbacus@sketchup.com

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      • M Offline
        mukul.ar
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        @Jeff: I was just clarifying whether the new way to install plugins was the way forward for sketchup in general or just for sketchup pro...

        @jbacus: Thankyou for clarifying πŸ‘ This may be out of topic, but is the google team working on a sketchup that is able to handle more geometry (heavier models)? Because that would be the only push I'd need to go pro... Its not every day I get to interact with the developing team so... Thankyou for this great piece of software... πŸ˜„

        My Works

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
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          For the mix here are my own plugin/extension/toolbar stats...

          Plugins:
          Loading:
          RB 297
          RBS 9
          Disabled:
          RB! 327
          RBS! 11
          This can never be entirely correct as several scripts will/won't load other files from within subfolders, but it's a reasonable indication of numbers...
          Scripts within 'Tools' are also not included above [there are 13 of these loading].

          Extensions:
          Active 18
          Inactive 16
          Toolbars:
          Active 46
          Inactive 13

          I load/activate them as needed.
          Obviously I have almost every script known to man, and some unknown, as I have several 'under development' at any one time...
          But I get no gray-out menus with this current 'set'.
          Many plugins do produce a lot of 'commands' to overwhelm Sketchup's capacity, but I find this is just below that fatal limit...
          However, if I activate too many more complex extras then random gray-outs do occur...

          TIG

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          • opalO Offline
            opal
            last edited by

            @jbacus said:

            @unknownuser said:

            Where should we send that list?

            Thanks- this will really help us figure out what is going on. You might just post it here, if you don't mind doing that. Alternately, you can PM Tricia for alternatives.

            john
            .

            my list is huge.. really.
            goes looking for a Tricia on the board somewhere to send a PM

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              @unknownuser said:

              goes looking for a Tricia on the board somewhere to send a PM

              Here...

              Gai...

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              • opalO Offline
                opal
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                Found her already, thanks πŸ˜„

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @tspco said:

                  Not impressed, went back to older version. My terrains don't move as nicely, really hammers my computer. SP animations are about half or less speed, than they used to be. So until I find out what I need to do I will not use it.

                  Have you checked if Hardware Acceleration has become disabled for some reason?

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @jbacus said:

                    @krisidious said:

                    I don't think we've come up with a number of plugins where it reaches greyed out by bloat. it will happen at some point but I'm not sure at what number of plugins.

                    I think it might help us to troubleshoot if those of you experiencing the grayed-out context menus could give us a sense of (how many total and which ones specifically) the plugins you have installed.

                    john
                    .

                    We're getting a few reports on disabled menus around here, the first thing we make to to tell the users is to check if they have any of the plugins installed that created command object in the context menu handler. It's been a long time since I've seen anyone with that issue around. These days it seems to be that the users have a large number of plugins installed. I can keep an eye out and forward these report to your team if you like. Any particular channel?
                    I'd really like to help as much as I can, because the issue makes people think it's specific plugins that is the problem and it leads to hours of troubleshooting for the users and developers.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • P Offline
                      publied
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                      nice!!!

                      hire me@ http://www.publied.it !

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                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                        Krisidious
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                        I don't think it would be proper for me to concern the likes of the Google SketchUp Team with my plugins folder until I had actually done my due diligence in locating the issue... my old plugins folder is a mess you can rest assured. after installing the fresh copy of SU M2 and reloading plugins one at a time, I think I have everything I need and no greying out... so I'm pretty happy. haven't even noticed any new features... but SU seems to be running very well and my transition has been smooth.

                        my transition for SU 8 Pro.

                        1. install new installation to current google folder. name "Google SketchUp 8M2"
                        2. make a backup of the google sketchup plugins folder.
                        3. cut and paste plugins over 1 at a time starting sketchup after each one.
                        4. copy and paste materials, components and styles folders over to new SU folder.

                        some how google finds the old installation and moves all your settings files and templates.
                        I did not have to re-authorize.

                        some plugins may have to be turned back on and moved back into position.

                        hopes this helps.

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • J Offline
                          jhauswirth
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                          The menu problems are caused by-
                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27941&hilit=+menu#p243583

                          I'll take a look today and see if I can fix the root problem rather than have a witch hunt for the plugins causing this problem.
                          I know what's causing it and hopefully it won't be too intrusive to fix.

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                          • daleD Offline
                            dale
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                            And, just to add to Krisidious's suggestion, you may have to be certain you have the most current version of the plugin as well.
                            I just lost the use of 1001bit Pro, and since it is one of my most used rubies, I freaked.
                            But I went to their website, and downloaded the latest version, and it now works like a charm.

                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              @jhauswirth said:

                              The menu problems are caused by-
                              http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27941&hilit=+menu#p243583

                              Before the main problem was a few plugins that created Command objects within the context handler. (This would be a good thing to warn about in the API docs.)
                              But looking into the reports we've gotten lately it seems to simply be due to a large number of plugins installed which creates a total large number of UI elements (menus and toolbar buttons)

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • jbacusJ Offline
                                jbacus
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                                @mukul.ar said:

                                @jbacus: Thankyou for clarifying πŸ‘ This may be out of topic, but is the google team working on a sketchup that is able to handle more geometry (heavier models)? Because that would be the only push I'd need to go pro... Its not every day I get to interact with the developing team so... Thankyou for this great piece of software... πŸ˜„

                                You're welcome! We're very proud of the work we do with SketchUp.

                                Performance is something we work on with every release, and it is something that clearly benefits all users. Every time we make SketchUp more able to handle bigger models, you guys begin making heavier models yet. Classic arms race. We've been in this condition for many releases now, and I think if you were to take one of the models you are working on today back to an older version of SketchUp you'd notice a significant difference.

                                But this is an academic argument and not what you're probably looking for. I promise we'll continue making SketchUp perform better with every release. In return, you've got to know where the limitations of the system are and keep building your models with respect to that.

                                Out of curiosity, what are you modeling today, and how 'heavy' would your model have to be before you'd be satisfied with the level of detail?

                                john
                                .

                                "...exaggerate the essential and leave the obvious unclear." --Vincent Van Gogh

                                John Bacus
                                jbacus@sketchup.com

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  @jbacus said:

                                  Out of curiosity, what are you modeling today, and how 'heavy' would your model have to be before you'd be satisfied with the level of detail?
                                  .

                                  this is what I'm working on today... I'm satisfied with the level of detail and the useability of the model.
                                  156,361 edges
                                  58,677 faces
                                  2371 component instances
                                  163 Components
                                  550 groups...
                                  113 materials
                                  yeah I'm a bad boy on groups.

                                  this is just about half the size of a normal house I would work on...


                                  Beach House

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • opalO Offline
                                    opal
                                    last edited by

                                    @krisidious said:

                                    my transition for SU 8 Pro.

                                    1. install new installation to current google folder. name "Google SketchUp 8M2"
                                    2. make a backup of the google sketchup plugins folder.
                                    3. cut and paste plugins over 1 at a time starting sketchup after each one.
                                    4. copy and paste materials, components and styles folders over to new SU folder.

                                    some how google finds the old installation and moves all your settings files and templates.
                                    I did not have to re-authorize.

                                    some plugins may have to be turned back on and moved back into position.

                                    hopes this helps.

                                    I didn't have that kind of luck in my attempt to keep the previous version of 8 resident. I renamed the sketchup 8 folder and created a new folder for the install of m2 both inside the programs(x86) - google folder.
                                    My styles (er templates) didn't transfer over and the executable that was in the older 8 is gone. I just looked for my two created styles and can't find them either.
                                    really does belong in the noob forum

                                    I have weeded down the plug in folder by more than half but can see that's not going to last long

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      I didn't have that kind of luck in my attempt to keep the previous version of 8 resident. I renamed the sketchup 8 folder and created a new folder for the install of m2 both inside the programs(x86) - google folder.
                                      My styles (er templates) didn't transfer over and the executable that was in the older 8 is gone. I just looked for my two created styles and can't find them either.

                                      yes it moved my dll's and exe's and such out of the original folder. did you have your styles saved in the "Styles" folder?

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      • opalO Offline
                                        opal
                                        last edited by

                                        I thought I had them saved.. but not a style, I don't think. I think I had two templates saved so when the program comes up, I have my own scale and colors set up.. maybe that's a style.
                                        Either way, neither the styles folder or the templates folder have them .. old or new installation.
                                        I'm kind of dismayed that I can't fire up the version from before M2 I had running yesterday morning to get those settings and reconstruct the templates.

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                                        • D Offline
                                          driven
                                          last edited by

                                          open a drawing that uses the old template then do save as template?

                                          john

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • G Offline
                                            gr8fzy1
                                            last edited by

                                            Will downloading SK8 Pro M2 and installing it wipe out my Previous SK8 Pro License? I read earlier (Page 3 I think) Of someone downloading it and it got rid of his Pro version.

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