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    • xiombargX Offline
      xiombarg
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      I'm working on the mesh below, most of which is from another application, but I'm hoping to do a portion of it in SU if I can import it and export it with sufficient correctness between programs. I'm wondering what is the best import format when working with relatively complicated meshes being brought into Quadface tools and into SU in general? My experience with .obj files brought into SU is that they look like a mess with missing faces and whatnot. What you see in my pic is a .dae collada file, which might work ok as long as it exports as a functional .obj in quads.

      So I guess I'm just wondering what tips anyone has for cleanly importing, what type of quad conversion different file types require, and hopefully export cleanly?


      http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/xiombarg001/Capture_zpszycyxtqs.png

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        I'm currently working on a OBJ importer that import QuadFace Tools quads. This would let you import and export quad based meshes to and from SketchUp.
        I still got some testing to do before I release it. But if you send me some OBJ files I can run them through the current development build.

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        • jujuJ Offline
          juju
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          also, there is this tool in development, I don't think it will integrate with SU though...

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          • thomthomT Offline
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            @juju said:

            also, there is this tool in development, I don't think it will integrate with SU though...

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            Oh! Interesting link!
            Well, if it export OBJs with quads then the importer should handle it.

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            • xiombargX Offline
              xiombarg
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              That's great news Thom. I'll be seriously looking forward to it. For now I'll probably stick with building certain parts in SU and then exporting out to put together in Modo, but thanks for the offer.

              Topologica looks interesting too. It would be nice to have an affordable option for reorganizing bad topology.

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Version 0.9.0

                • OBJ Importer (File > Import... > "OBJ Files - QuadFace Tools"

                Note that I expect there will be issues with the importer as there are probably many variations of exporters I'd not accounted for. If you experience issues please keep your Ruby Console open and report back the errors and example model.

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                • xiombargX Offline
                  xiombarg
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                  Appreciate the importer Thom!

                  One thing I've found as I've been experimenting with importing and exporting between various programs is that collada .dae files always import and export surprisingly cleanly between programs. I don't hear much talk about collada files being used, but almost every program supports them, and where obj files often create artifacts when dealing with bad geometry, collada files don't seem to have a problem with this.

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                  • ithilI Offline
                    ithil
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                    Greetings thomthom
                    Thanks again for your scripts. It's just a bomb.
                    I'm happy as a kid 😃 ☀

                    There is another question.

                    I tried to export an OBJ file using your plugin.
                    The program UVLayout imported excellent correct poly mesh!
                    No need to deal with triangles and mapinga is a 3 times faster.

                    I save the finished OBJ file in UVLayout.
                    But it is imported in SketchUp without texture.
                    I thought QuadFaceTools did not know how to import textures. But another model from SketchUp saved opens with texture.

                    Maybe there is some kind of setup?
                    In UVLayout seen the name of the material - it is assigned by the model.

                    Before that, I used the plug-in SketchUV to communicate with SketchUp and UVLayout.
                    ExportUVs, ImportUVs. But it turns out OBJ broken into triangles. And it is very difficult to work in the program. UVLayout works with polygon mesh.
                    Do you plan to make an analog ExportUVs, ImportUVs but with your excellent polygons?

                    ps. I checked.
                    After mapping in 3D max OBJ file also imports without texture.

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      For Windows 8.1 and I suppose some all versions ? 🤓

                      If you want install QuadFace tool, Install first TT-LIb2 else you will obtain a very beautiful "Bug SPlatch" and of course no possibility to use Sketchup! 😉

                      I have started the French manual of it! 😉 Done! ☀
                      Other French Manual SUbD done 😉

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        After mapping in 3D max OBJ file also imports without texture.

                        Thats's true ? Seems incredible ! I suppose you have choice yes or no ? 😮

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                        • ithilI Offline
                          ithil
                          last edited by

                          I tested again and recorded video.
                          From 3D MAX imported black material without texture.
                          But with UVLayout happened.
                          Apparently up to this program is not the path to texture. This is strange. I have 5 times the same thing done 😃
                          I think. texture file must be in the same folder as an OBJ file.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            Can you share the OBJ along with the MTL and textures? Zip them up please?

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                            • panixiaP Offline
                              panixia
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                              thomas i rememember we had the same problems in beta.. the zbrush obj were running fine but the 3dsmax ones gave same problem.
                              if i don't remember wrong, you said that was a matter of the texture-files path.. and also i remember you fixed those models in some way.. maybe reloading the texture from sketchp material editor from a new path? can't remember..

                              also i remember there was something related to the upside-down flipping, but maybe that was from the zbrush models? not sure.. i'm trying to find those obj models to check the path of the textures..

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                              • ithilI Offline
                                ithil
                                last edited by

                                Yes of course. Here are all these files

                                obj.zip

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
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                                  @ithil said:

                                  Yes of course. Here are all these files

                                  [attachment=0:16xvwwwa]<!-- ia0 -->obj.zip<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:16xvwwwa]

                                  Something in your export process hard code the full path to the textures - instead of relatives.

                                  
                                  # 3ds Max Wavefront OBJ Exporter v0.97b - (c)2007 guruware
                                  # File Created; 19.01.2016 12;57;08
                                  
                                  newmtl CHECKER_V1
                                  	Ns 30.0000
                                  	Ni 1.5000
                                  	d 1.0000
                                  	Tr 0.0000
                                  	Tf 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000 
                                  	illum 2
                                  	Ka 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
                                  	Kd 0.3882 0.3922 0.3882
                                  	Ks 0.3300 0.3300 0.3300
                                  	Ke 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
                                  	map_Ka C;\temp4\pod_1_sk\CHECKER_V1.jpg
                                  	map_Kd C;\temp4\pod_1_sk\CHECKER_V1.jpg
                                  
                                  

                                  However on your own machine you'd think it'd stil work...

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                                  • ely862meE Offline
                                    ely862me
                                    last edited by

                                    Can I select the place where loops are inserted? They usually are inserted at the half of the line you choose, is there any way that would change ?

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                                      cuttingedge
                                      last edited by

                                      HI Thomas, Just to drop a note that i really did appreciate QFT now that SubD is out and prove to be one of the most useful plugin.

                                      Just wondering if we have a "relax tool" in the QFT suite or in any plugin you authored. I hope I know what im saying by relax which means to kind of smooth out the geometry without subdividing it but not destroying the quadface integrity of the model.

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                                      • BoxB Offline
                                        Box
                                        last edited by

                                        @ely862me said:

                                        Can I select the place where loops are inserted? They usually are inserted at the half of the line you choose, is there any way that would change ?

                                        Probably the easiest way is to add more loops and delete the ones you don't need.
                                        Select the ring, then connect edges to create more loops then use the remove loop button.


                                        loops.gif

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          In this particular case maybe this is more speedy! 😄

                                          3 times Edge Tools / Divide faces by Thomthom
                                          and copy the last edge
                                          Like this there no internal face created

                                          GIF_div.gif

                                          menhir.jpg

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                                          • BoxB Offline
                                            Box
                                            last edited by

                                            Try that with a more complex shape pilou.
                                            QFT doesn't create internal faces either.


                                            complex loop.gif

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