[Plugin] QuadFaceTools

xiombarg · 29 Jun 2015, 06:32

Appreciate the importer Thom!

One thing I've found as I've been experimenting with importing and exporting between various programs is that collada .dae files always import and export surprisingly cleanly between programs. I don't hear much talk about collada files being used, but almost every program supports them, and where obj files often create artifacts when dealing with bad geometry, collada files don't seem to have a problem with this.

ithil · 19 Jan 2016, 07:41

Greetings thomthom
Thanks again for your scripts. It's just a bomb.
I'm happy as a kid

There is another question.

I tried to export an OBJ file using your plugin.
The program UVLayout imported excellent correct poly mesh!
No need to deal with triangles and mapinga is a 3 times faster.

I save the finished OBJ file in UVLayout.
But it is imported in SketchUp without texture.
I thought QuadFaceTools did not know how to import textures. But another model from SketchUp saved opens with texture.

Maybe there is some kind of setup?
In UVLayout seen the name of the material - it is assigned by the model.

Before that, I used the plug-in SketchUV to communicate with SketchUp and UVLayout.
ExportUVs, ImportUVs. But it turns out OBJ broken into triangles. And it is very difficult to work in the program. UVLayout works with polygon mesh.
Do you plan to make an analog ExportUVs, ImportUVs but with your excellent polygons?

ps. I checked.
After mapping in 3D max OBJ file also imports without texture.

pilou · 19 Jan 2016, 08:56

For Windows 8.1 and I suppose some all versions ?

If you want install QuadFace tool, Install first TT-LIb2 else you will obtain a very beautiful "Bug SPlatch" and of course no possibility to use Sketchup!

I have started the French manual of it! Done!
Other French Manual SUbD done

pilou · 19 Jan 2016, 08:58

@unknownuser said:

After mapping in 3D max OBJ file also imports without texture.

Thats's true ? Seems incredible ! I suppose you have choice yes or no ?

ithil · 19 Jan 2016, 09:38

I tested again and recorded video.
From 3D MAX imported black material without texture.
But with UVLayout happened.
Apparently up to this program is not the path to texture. This is strange. I have 5 times the same thing done
I think. texture file must be in the same folder as an OBJ file.

thomthom · 19 Jan 2016, 15:29

Can you share the OBJ along with the MTL and textures? Zip them up please?

panixia · 19 Jan 2016, 17:17

thomas i rememember we had the same problems in beta.. the zbrush obj were running fine but the 3dsmax ones gave same problem.
if i don't remember wrong, you said that was a matter of the texture-files path.. and also i remember you fixed those models in some way.. maybe reloading the texture from sketchp material editor from a new path? can't remember..

also i remember there was something related to the upside-down flipping, but maybe that was from the zbrush models? not sure.. i'm trying to find those obj models to check the path of the textures..

ithil · 19 Jan 2016, 17:24

Yes of course. Here are all these files

obj.zip

thomthom · 19 Jan 2016, 20:37

@ithil said:

Yes of course. Here are all these files

[attachment=0:16xvwwwa]obj.zip[/attachment:16xvwwwa]

Something in your export process hard code the full path to the textures - instead of relatives.


# 3ds Max Wavefront OBJ Exporter v0.97b - (c)2007 guruware
# File Created; 19.01.2016 12;57;08

newmtl CHECKER_V1
	Ns 30.0000
	Ni 1.5000
	d 1.0000
	Tr 0.0000
	Tf 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000 
	illum 2
	Ka 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
	Kd 0.3882 0.3922 0.3882
	Ks 0.3300 0.3300 0.3300
	Ke 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
	map_Ka C;\temp4\pod_1_sk\CHECKER_V1.jpg
	map_Kd C;\temp4\pod_1_sk\CHECKER_V1.jpg

However on your own machine you'd think it'd stil work...

ely862me · 29 Jan 2016, 22:02

Can I select the place where loops are inserted? They usually are inserted at the half of the line you choose, is there any way that would change ?

cuttingedge · 29 Jan 2016, 23:27

HI Thomas, Just to drop a note that i really did appreciate QFT now that SubD is out and prove to be one of the most useful plugin.

Just wondering if we have a "relax tool" in the QFT suite or in any plugin you authored. I hope I know what im saying by relax which means to kind of smooth out the geometry without subdividing it but not destroying the quadface integrity of the model.

Box · 30 Jan 2016, 00:05

@ely862me said:

Can I select the place where loops are inserted? They usually are inserted at the half of the line you choose, is there any way that would change ?

Probably the easiest way is to add more loops and delete the ones you don't need.
Select the ring, then connect edges to create more loops then use the remove loop button.

pilou · 30 Jan 2016, 02:19

In this particular case maybe this is more speedy!

3 times Edge Tools / Divide faces by Thomthom
and copy the last edge
Like this there no internal face created

Box · 30 Jan 2016, 02:44

Try that with a more complex shape pilou.
QFT doesn't create internal faces either.

thomthom · 30 Jan 2016, 03:48

@ely862me said:

Can I select the place where loops are inserted? They usually are inserted at the half of the line you choose, is there any way that would change ?

Not with the Insert Loop function, no. I have been looking into a new tool for this - but its not complete.

There is an experimental prototype in the latest versions, but it got some flaws. Need to rethink it.

cuttingedge · 30 Jan 2016, 05:20

@thomthom said:

You mean something like this?

Sorry, do image display on my browser.

thomthom · 30 Jan 2016, 05:29

@cuttingedge said:

HI Thomas, Just to drop a note that i really did appreciate QFT now that SubD is out and prove to be one of the most useful plugin.

Just wondering if we have a "relax tool" in the QFT suite or in any plugin you authored. I hope I know what im saying by relax which means to kind of smooth out the geometry without subdividing it but not destroying the quadface integrity of the model.

You mean something like this?

thomthom · 30 Jan 2016, 05:30

@cuttingedge said:

Sorry, do image display on my browser.

I'm not sure if I fully understood that sentence. But I assumed you meant that you couldn't see the images? In any case, I went back and re-uploaded the images.

cuttingedge · 30 Jan 2016, 07:47

@thomthom said:

You mean something like this?

Whoaa..Where did this come from? Where do I find this?

Hope this relax tool be part of your quadface suite , even the insert loop similar to that of 3ds max 'graphite tool' where you can pick the exact point where you want it placed.

ely862me · 30 Jan 2016, 08:53

Hi Box and Pilou,
Thanks for the tips!
I tried your method,Box but it gives me some errors here and there when removing the extra loops.
I think the adding loops is better though, as you first insert one at the middle then you insert one in the half you want, and so on. At the end there are fewer loops to remove and fewer errors. It is better to remove the extra loop immediately you created the new one.

Yes, Thomas, loop offset would be a great addition. Unless you can create a loop mover that would move the loop at a specified point after it was inserted-something like moving a section cut plane back and forth.
The Line tool is still unpolishead leaving behind here and there both diagonals.