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    • keea1111K Offline
      keea1111
      last edited by

      HI,

      Here is the attachment...Let me know if you need any more details for this problem. much appreciated...Keea


      dimensioning sample copy.png

      KEEA

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      • keea1111K Offline
        keea1111
        last edited by

        HI,

        Here is another screenshot of the next page over where it is working how I need it to work. These two different drawings are referenced from two different SU files. What do you think is the problem? thanks,


        dimensioning sample2 copy.png

        KEEA

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        • bmikeB Offline
          bmike
          last edited by

          was having that very same issue yesterday. i did a re-boot and re-started layout. seems to have worked itself out.

          mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            For 2D views you certainly don't need to do what I was talking about.

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            • keea1111K Offline
              keea1111
              last edited by

              I tried rebooting and that didn't solve the problem. Does anyone know how to address this? thanks, Keea

              KEEA

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              • bmikeB Offline
                bmike
                last edited by

                @keea1111 said:

                I tried rebooting and that didn't solve the problem. Does anyone know how to address this? thanks, Keea

                it looks like the dimensions aren't pulling from 'real world' to scale - 3/4" seems awfully small for that building. are you on 'auto' scale - have you tried setting the scale to the correct ratio?

                when i had a related issue of trying to pull dimensions that were on faces out of the world axis (tipped to a cutting plane) - i copied my viewport over to the right side NN", then exploded the view - this turns your 'live' window into your model into a bunch of vector lines and graphics.

                i then applied dimensions to the exploded viewport, being sure to set the correct scale.
                when finished, grabbed them all and moved them back the same NN".

                they weren't associative at this point - but they were accurate.

                mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                • A Offline
                  ArCAD-UK
                  last edited by

                  Have you possibly editted the text and adjusted the dimension lines to suit new wall positions? Editted text won't update.

                  If you rescale/stretch the dimension does the value change?

                  If you put a fresh dimension in does it give the correct value?

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                  • keea1111K Offline
                    keea1111
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    the 3/4" was incorrect. I'm not concerned about that, as there was an invisible layer causing this. That isn't the problem, because the same scenario persists where the dimensions are accurate. Sorry for the confusion.

                    KEEA

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                    • keea1111K Offline
                      keea1111
                      last edited by

                      @arcad-uk said:

                      Have you possibly editted the text and adjusted the dimension lines to suit new wall positions? Editted text won't update.

                      If you rescale/stretch the dimension does the value change?

                      If you put a fresh dimension in does it give the correct value?

                      HI,

                      No, no text editing was done.  I didn't rescale, but yes, when I do it does change the value.  Yes, it does give correct dimensions, just not consistently as shown above.  I even deleted my SU link, and made a fresh import to try, and still not working.  It seems it is something coming from SU, but as I analyze both models, the one that works and the one that doesn't, they are both similar, in that it is just a flat 2D parallel perspective top view of a group of line work....I'm stumped...seems minor, but it is major for what I am doing... thanks,
                      

                      KEEA

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                      • keea1111K Offline
                        keea1111
                        last edited by

                        HI,

                        To help clarify, here is another attachment of another drawing that worked great, and shows what I need to happen, and what happens 60% of the time, the other 40% is a mystery...thanks, Keea
                        

                        dimensioning sample3.png

                        KEEA

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                        • B Offline
                          bjanzen
                          last edited by

                          Here's what I think is going on: when you have it correct, you have your dimension scale set correctly and you're actually measuring paper, so in your last example, your 5' 10-1/8" dimension is model space, and your 2' 1" measurement is paper space but scaled correctly.

                          Let me take a step back and see if I can explain that. When you inference a model in LayOut, you're going to get the dimension "how far is it from point A to point B IN MODEL 3D SPACE", not paper space like other, older CAD programs. You can get scaled, paper space, by clicking Ortho, and like most architects, setting that scale. Now your angled measurements wont ask the model "how far is it in model space from here to here", but instead will ask "how far on the paper is it from this dimension line to this dimension line; now multiply that by my scale (e.g. 1/4" = 1')"

                          LayOut allows you to do both those things, but sometimes you can get them crossed if you're not sure what you're doing. Here's an image of how I can dimension the same thing in both methods to get a different result. p-vs-m.png

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                          • keea1111K Offline
                            keea1111
                            last edited by

                            dimensioning sample4(option A).pngHi Barry,

                             Thanks for your response.  It makes perfect sense how you have explained. I went in and checked my ORTHO setting, and both option A page and option B page are inconsistent, while they both apparently have the same ortho setting, so I still could not correct the problem.  I've attached screen shots of the two pages(correct/incorrect) so you might be able to see a setting that I missed.  I really need to figure this out, and your example was very clear, but still something amiss with my pages and dimensions....thanks,
                            

                            KEEA

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                            • keea1111K Offline
                              keea1111
                              last edited by

                              Here is option B page..thanks,


                              dimensioning sample4(option B).png

                              KEEA

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                              • J Offline
                                jhauswirth
                                last edited by

                                If you can post an example LO file or send me the file, we (LO developers) can take a look.

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                                • keea1111K Offline
                                  keea1111
                                  last edited by

                                  HI,

                                  Can you email me your email address so I can send the file. I've tried attaching on this forum but it isn't able. It is a 14 MB file, so maybe too large.. thanks, Keea
                                  ps my email is keea1111@gmail.com

                                  KEEA

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                                  • A Offline
                                    AlainBo
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi, I had I think the exact same problem ans solved it clicking on SCALE button in Cotation Style Tab

                                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39874&p=352439#p352439

                                    cotation.jpg

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