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    • Rich O BrienR 線上
      Rich O Brien Moderator
      最後由 編輯

      That's a great suggestion Adam. But i fear way beyond my skill level.

      And I think TIG will break my legs if I pester him anymore about this.

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      • brookefoxB 離線
        brookefox
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        Not to play the rat here, but wouldn't that be best implemented as a 'begin (within) new group model now' thing, rather than something limited to line creation?

        ~ Brooke

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        • M 離線
          Michaelv
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          Simon,

          Just in case I made a tool that converts any cline to normal line and vice versa, also changes the stipple and color as needed. That may solve some of your inference needs. (I still love and use this tool also though)

          See here:
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=44311

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          • EarthMoverE 離線
            EarthMover
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            @brookefox said:

            Not to play the rat here, but wouldn't that be best implemented as a 'begin (within) new group model now' thing, rather than something limited to line creation?

            Most of the Tools on Surface from Fredo come with an option to create within a new group. I use that one quite a bit, but those tools don't always work as expected when not drawing on a surface. It's easy enough to just draw two lines, group them, open the group, then delete the lines and you're in a group where any native tools apply. I just figured most modeling starts with the line tool, so if that initiated the group, you could continue with any other tools from within it and be ahead of the game. I use this most often when tracing perimeters for contours or use with instant site grader plugin.

            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
            Content Creator at Skapeup

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            • R 離線
              rumcajs
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              I did draw many soft edges, while I corrected rounded corners on object. Later suddenly the tool stopped working and it draws only hard edges, anywhere. I'd stress a lot with it, but nothing helped.

              http://i46.tinypic.com/288wq5e.png

              When I draw hard edges to triangle, the connected lines do not create a face.

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              • pbacotP 離線
                pbacot
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                @rumcajs said:

                I did draw many soft edges, while I corrected rounded corners on object. Later suddenly the tool stopped working and it draws only hard edges, anywhere. I'd stress a lot with it, but nothing helped.

                http://i46.tinypic.com/288wq5e.png

                When I draw hard edges to triangle, the connected lines do not create a face.

                IDK about your first question, but on the Second: Note that the "Edge" tool "E" is designed NOT to form faces to provide that option. The "LINE" tool "L" will form faces.

                In regards to the Soft Draw tool I do find that it will only draw soft lines (hidden geometry ON) when connecting across a face. For me it will not draw soft edges in open space as shown in the video.

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                • I 離線
                  ideas_arte
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                  ¡Thanks!

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                  • R 離線
                    rumcajs
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                    The Soft edge tool can close faces. But I did not used Edge tool (!). I used Soft edge - "S" tool, but it draws hard edges instead soft. But I did cca 20-40 faces with soft tool and soft edges when I started the model. And later it stopped to work. So strange. I like the Soft edge tool very much, because it can save a lot of time, but one needs to know, why it fails to draw soft edges occasionally.

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                    • M 離線
                      matt.gordon320
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                      Hi Rich! Thanks again for releasing what has been one of my favorite plugins. I've started setting up the SketchUp installs for my firm, and I've got a little quirk to pass by you:

                      I'm using Fredo6's 000_Additionalpluginsfolder.rb to pull scripts from a network hard drive to each individual station. For some reason I can't work out, the icons for PenTools don't show up, I just get a blank tool bar, though the buttons and the menu items under the draw menu work fine. In short, the script works, but the icons are missing!

                      Any thoughts on where to start looking?

                      Thanks!

                      -Matt

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                      • TIGT 離線
                        TIG Moderator
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                        @matt.gordon320 said:

                        Hi Rich! Thanks again for releasing what has been one of my favorite plugins. I've started setting up the SketchUp installs for my firm, and I've got a little quirk to pass by you:

                        I'm using Fredo6's 000_Additionalpluginsfolder.rb to pull scripts from a network hard drive to each individual station. For some reason I can't work out, the icons for PenTools don't show up, I just get a blank tool bar, though the buttons and the menu items under the draw menu work fine. In short, the script works, but the icons are missing!

                        Any thoughts on where to start looking?

                        Thanks!

                        -Matt
                        Edit the main file PenTool+.rb with a plain-text editor [like Notepad or Notepad++]
                        Find line #1773...
                        plugins = Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
                        change it to:
                        plugins = File.dirname(__FILE__)
                        and then Save the file.
                        Restart SketchUp, and it should now find the custom plugins-folder location OK...

                        Rich should really make this simple amendment to his toolset to allow wider use of custom plugins-folders easier... It's one of the few that still use the outdated find_support_file which always looks to the main Plugins folder 😒

                        TIG

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                        • Rich O BrienR 線上
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          最後由 編輯

                          @Matt

                          Silent update in the PluginStore

                          NOTE: If upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.0 please delete the Pen Tool+.rb file and rob_hsltool folder from your plugins folder.

                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                          • M 離線
                            matt.gordon320
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                            Thanks both TIG and Rich!

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                            • A 離線
                              alexkara
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                              The first time I use any of the pen tools, tool a line is automatically drawn from my starting point to the central Axis. Thereafter it behaves OK. This happens also when I change back to it.

                              Anyone have this issue and is there a workaround I am missing. ❓

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                              • Dave RD 離線
                                Dave R
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                                I'm not seeing that at all with these tools.

                                What operating system, SketchUp version, etc.? Please complete your profile.

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                • A 離線
                                  alexkara
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                                  I have updated my profile.

                                  Tried to attach a screen dump but did not know how.

                                  Anyone have any suggestions?

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                                  • P 離線
                                    Pherim
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                                    I have the same issue, but only in Sketchup 2015 64bit. Are you sure your profile is correctly updated? It works for me in SU 2013 without problems.

                                    Also, soft draw doesn't work at all in SU2015, the lines start from the origin and are not softened, and weld draw always generates a new line from the origin with every click instead of a continuous line.

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                                    • TIGT 離線
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      There is v1.7.0 updated in the PluginStore http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Pen_Tools I've updated it for Rich - it now avoids the errors causing the first point to auto-create and to always be at the origin, and also some of the tools [like soft/weld] to be messed up completely...

                                      If you get issues with tools like this, then it's always useful to try them with the Ruby Console open and pass on any errors.
                                      In the case of these 'Pen Tools' there were clear error-messages relating to the string translations, which worked with earlier versions of SketchUp if the 'example,rb' tools had also been setup, but which now no longer work with newer SUp versions, and Ruby2 is not as forgiving either !

                                      It was a simple fix to edit the file and delete the 21 erroneous 'langhandler' calls highlighted in the error-messages...

                                      I think it now works fine - please test and report if I'm wrong !

                                      TIG

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                                      • Clayton49C 離線
                                        Clayton49
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        To all,

                                        I was looking for a tool to just draw dashed lines, this tool seems to suggest it can do this o.k. therefore does it work with SU-PRO-2017 ? Or is there another tool that can draw dashed lines or various line styles similar to plain 2D-CAD ?

                                        I seem to remember a set of tools that just functioned like 2D-CAD, but unsure if it had line style options ?

                                        Anyway a tool like this would be quite useful to add further detail to extracted sectional model views for floor plans etc, as not everything needs to be modeled in 3D-SU. 2D items like: plan doors swings, plaster lines & symbols to name a few.

                                        Over & out,
                                        CJT54

                                        Over & out,
                                        Clayton.

                                        %(#008000)[Trotman & Taylor
                                        Architectural Consultants]

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                                        • Dave RD 離線
                                          Dave R
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          There is a tool for drawing guides that you might use as dashed lines but remember, they will be deleted if you hit Delete Guides.

                                          Screenshot - 7_30_2017 , 2_26_47 PM.png

                                          TIG's 2D Tools has a tool that can draw "styled" lines. You might check that out.

                                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                          • Clayton49C 離線
                                            Clayton49
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                                            @dave r said:

                                            There is a tool for drawing guides that you might use as dashed lines but remember, they will be deleted if you hit Delete Guides.

                                            [attachment=0:otl9wsk6]<!-- ia0 -->Screenshot - 7_30_2017 , 2_26_47 PM.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:otl9wsk6]

                                            TIG's 2D Tools has a tool that can draw "styled" lines. You might check that out.

                                            Hi Dave-R,

                                            Yes, the TIG'S-2D-TOOLS is what I'm after, but see it's not SU-PRO-2017 validated... grrr...I'll have to post something on that on the forum to see if it's o.k. to use.

                                            Thanks,
                                            Over & out,
                                            CJT54

                                            Over & out,
                                            Clayton.

                                            %(#008000)[Trotman & Taylor
                                            Architectural Consultants]

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