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    Mouse on a Mac (orbiting)

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    • tbdT 離線
      tbd
      最後由 編輯

      if you have MagicMouse you can use BetterTouchTool and have a middle button for orbit setup

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      • leedeeteeL 離線
        leedeetee
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        Just found out the mouse is a Logitech M505 if that makes any difference to proceedings?

        http://p.gzhls.at/450578.jpg

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        • Dave RD 離線
          Dave R
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          Next thing to find out is if she installed the Logitech driver software.

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          • jeff hammondJ 離線
            jeff hammond
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            that's the mouse i use with the laptop and the mmb does work for orbiting if the logitech driver isn't installed (and i don't have it installed)..

            if she does have it installed, you'll have to go to the logitech control panel (or whatever it's called) in system preferences..

            you'll want to select the 'custom' option for the middle mouse button then assign it to function as ^⌘LMB (control - command - left mouse button)

            dotdotdot

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            • leedeeteeL 離線
              leedeetee
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              Thanks guys, will give it a go. 😄

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              • Jean LemireJ 離線
                Jean Lemire
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                Hi folks.

                After four years of use, my wireless Mighty Mouse (with the small round roller) started acting badly, with the roller nor working for scroll up. None of the tricks that I knew to clean it works anymore. Except for that problem, this mouse has always been a pleasure to use. I enabled the center roller as the third button in the Mouse Preference Panel and it worked perfectly with SketchUp (SU).

                Unable to find a replacement since Apple do not make Wireless Migthy Mouse any more, only wired one and I prefer wireless since it save on desktop clutter, I decided to try the Apple Magic Mouse. It works but, without a third button, it is useless for SU. However, before going to buy the Magic Mouse, I had read about the BetterTouchTools software. I installed it and created a center button (3rd button if you prefer). It works but, since this mouse do not gives a tactile feedback, I need to peek at the mouse to make sure that my index is in its center to be able to use the virtual 3rd button. Also, with SU, it stops working from time to time so, I decided to buy a Logitech 505 wireless mouse with a classic roller. It worked like a charm. At first, I did not install the driver since, it did not required it to work. However, the speed is too great and I need to go to the mouse controp panel to slow it down a little. After a couple of weeks, I discovered that the wheel of this mouse can also be pushed sideway. But, you need to install the Logitech Mouse Driver to enable this feature as well as the use of the two additional buttons on the side of the mouse. I did and I discovered that the mouse reaction, especially with SU is now quite sluggish. You must note that I also have the Magic Trackpad hooked wirelesly on my iMac. I don't know if it may have an effect. So, after fighting for an hour or so, trying to draw with SU, I gave up and removed the Logitech driver. I dont have the sideway click and cannot use the additional buttons but at least, it is usable with SU.

                Just ideas.

                Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                • jgbJ 離線
                  jgb
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                  Not sure if this applies to a Mac, but I upgraded my Logitech mouse last year and had the devil of a time getting the wheel down click to work like my previous mouse.

                  Try this; Open your Logitech mouse settings dialog and redefine the wheel down as "Middle Button".


                  jgb

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                  • Dave RD 離線
                    Dave R
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                    Or uninstall the Logitech driver altogether. It isn't needed. The mouse will work just fine without it.

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                    • O 離線
                      otb designworks
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                      I have a logitech mouse that did not start up with the scroll wheel button working as expected.

                      I purchased http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ and used it to set my middle button, as well as a slew of other settings. Works perfectly.

                      Cheers, Chuck

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                      • Dave RD 離線
                        Dave R
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                        Chuck, did you have problems with the Logitech mouse without the logitech driver installed?

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                        • jgbJ 離線
                          jgb
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                          @dave r said:

                          Or uninstall the Logitech driver altogether. It isn't needed. The mouse will work just fine without it.

                          But only if you have a simple mouse, ie: 2 buttons and a wheel that Windows built-in drivers recognizes.

                          If you have a complex mouse; like my Logitech MX-600, with 5 additional buttons, Win will not recognize those extra buttons. The Logitech drivers allow you to redefine any of the 10 available buttons & wheel to do pretty much anything you want, as well as read the battery status.

                          Unfortunately SU still does not recognize any more than the 2 main buttons and the wheel.


                          jgb

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                          • Dave RD 離線
                            Dave R
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                            Perhaps for a complex mouse that makes sense but the mouse that the OP was asking about is just a simple mouse.

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                            • T 離線
                              tfdesign
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                              You could also give USB overdrive a go?

                              http://www.usboverdrive.com/USBOverdrive/News.html

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                              • F 離線
                                fabiosica
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                                I have a magic mouse.
                                I use Mac OS and Windows 7 (BootCamp).

                                I work with SketchUp and need the wheel click for orbit.

                                Anyone can tell how can i config the BetterTouchTool??

                                Because i try MagicPrefs and BetterTouchTool, but when i click
                                on middle mouse button (center surface of Magic Mouse, since it does not have buttons 💚 )
                                the screen rolls to page with Widgets (Don't know the name).
                                Gesture: Single finger middle click > Assigned: Middleclick.
                                Doe anyone can tell me witch option is correct to assign?

                                And with Windows OS (via BootCamp), anyone know how can i activate middle button of Magic Mouse?
                                Right and Left CLick and Zoom works ok. But don't have middle click for orbit.

                                If i can't get work middle click of Magic Mouse on Mac OS and Windows via Bootcamp, i will
                                give up and sell this MagicMouse. And work with a traditional mouse.

                                Thanks for your help! 👍
                                Fabio Sica.
                                fabio.sica@hotmail.com

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                                • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                  jeff hammond
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                                  hey Fabio..

                                  i don't have (or ever had) a magic mouse so i'm not sure how much help i can be but something to try is assigning middle click to:

                                  control-command-left mouse button

                                  that's a shortcut for orbiting that google doesn't seem to document anymore.. (it's different then the default 'O' for orbit which switches to the orbit tool…).. this is how i work when using only my trackpad when drawing on a laptop..

                                  so first, try orbiting by holding the control and command keys then left mouse button.. that should work… then try assigning that combo in bettertouchtool.. that should work too ?

                                  as far as bootcamp.. uh.. i really don't know.. but i assume there's a windows equivalent of ^⌘LMB for orbiting?

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • F 離線
                                    fabiosica
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                                    Hello Jeff,

                                    Thanks for reply.
                                    I found the problem. The middle click was assigned at system preferences to open Dashboard.
                                    Only disable that shortcut to Dashboard and middle click orbit worked fine.

                                    But this control-command-left click is very good. Don't need to switch to orbit.
                                    Worked on SKP (Mac OS) but not on SKP (Win 7 via Bootcamp).
                                    I don't know if SKP (Windows Version) has a shortcut equivalent. I will try to find anything like this for Windows version.

                                    On BetterTouchTool i didn't found an option to assign all this things (control+comand+left click).
                                    It's ok, because middle click worked now.

                                    But the most important that i saw:
                                    Magic Mouse is very bad to work with SketchUp! Not accurate and middle click does not work well.
                                    Sometimes work, sometimes doesn't.

                                    The touch functions is very good when working on Apple's sofware, but with Sketchup doesn't.
                                    I will change for another mouse.
                                    I can work with a button mouse and with trackpad to multitouch gestures... i think is the best choose.

                                    Sorry about my english.

                                    Thank you very much!

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    hey Fabio..

                                    i don't have (or ever had) a magic mouse so i'm not sure how much help i can be but something to try is assigning middle click to:

                                    control-command-left mouse button

                                    that's a shortcut for orbiting that google doesn't seem to document anymore.. (it's different then the default 'O' for orbit which switches to the orbit tool…).. this is how i work when using only my trackpad when drawing on a laptop..

                                    so first, try orbiting by holding the control and command keys then left mouse button.. that should work… then try assigning that combo in bettertouchtool.. that should work too ?

                                    as far as bootcamp.. uh.. i really don't know.. but i assume there's a windows equivalent of ^⌘LMB for orbiting?

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                                    • E 離線
                                      Energyzer
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                                      Hello guys.

                                      I'm using SU 2015 on my Macbook Pro and all of a sudden the middle mouse button on a cheap logitech mouse (which i don't know the model) stop working. Last time i worked on it everything was perfectly fine. Now i can't pan/orbit with using the MMB. Tried another cheap logitech mouse that i have here and i doesn't work either... Haven't changed anything, so i can't find out what's wrong. I'm not using any drivers.

                                      Can anyone help me out with this?

                                      Thanks in advance

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                                      • Dave RD 離線
                                        Dave R
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                                        Did you look in the System settings for any mouse settings?

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                                        • jgbJ 離線
                                          jgb
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                                          3 things to look for...

                                          1 - change the mouse batteries

                                          2 - check if there is any metallic object between the mouse and the RF receiver connected to the computer. Range between the 2 is a factor as well.

                                          3 - If the wheel works in other apps, the problem is not the mouse.


                                          jgb

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                                          • M 離線
                                            mwm5053
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                                            @ leegeten I use a Logitech mouse simular to the one you pictured there and have used it on several Macs and several different OS X and Dave has the best and only solution Don't use the Logitech driver it will screw it up and the scroll wheel won't work.You may have to Google search how to remove the driver on a Mac, probably in your Application Support folder.

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