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    • jgbJ Offline
      jgb
      last edited by

      I've been using Solid Inspector for about 3 weeks now, and only a few days ago discovered the <tab> key, arrow key and <enter> functions. Never thought to look down. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

      I use it so much I have the "S" key as a shortcut. ๐Ÿ‘

      But a most unintuitive aspect of SI is when it finds and highlights the problem(s). ๐Ÿ‘Ž

      Generally you want to delete the offender entity(s).
      The process is to toggle amongst the highlights to choose one, which is now indicated by a red circle. โ—
      Press <Enter> to zoom in on it.
      Place the white arrow cursor on the highlighted entity.
      Right click and select "Edit group". If you click "erase" here, it will delete the whole group.
      Keeping the cursor on the highlighted entity, Right Click and select "erase". That will delete the single cursor-ed entity only. Either 1 line or 1 face, but not the faces highlighted perimeter lines.
      And that leaves you in a form of limbo. ๐ŸŽ‰
      Now you have to select the "edit menu" and "close group" to get back into SI for the next problem.

      Since 99.9% of the time you want to simply delete the offending entity, why not simply;
      Place the cursor on it and just double click to delete the red highlighted entity.
      Then you toggle to the next.

      This obviates the wish for an auto-fix which is complex and where a simple deletion may not be the fix one needs to do.

      One other thing; when SI encounters a true solid (no errors) please say so, maybe a green circle around the group/comp. But do come out of the white arrow select mode.


      jgb

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        Alencar
        last edited by

        Dear Thomthom

        is amazing how a simple program can solve such a complex issue and recurrent.

        this is brilliant

        thank you, very much.

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        • jgbJ Offline
          jgb
          last edited by

          @alencar said:

          Dear Thomthom

          is amazing how a simple program can solve such a complex issue and recurrent.

          this is brilliant

          thank you, very much.

          Believe me, Solid Inspector is not a "simple" program by a long shot. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

          TT has displayed an ongoing expertise in solving problems in SU that should have been an intrinsic part of SU from the get-go.

          Using SI as a prime example; SU's attempt at being a solid modeler is commendable, however, to allow the tiniest errant fragment to prevent a solid from "forming" and NOT TELLING YOU WHY is amateurish at the least. ๐Ÿ‘Š

          TT gets an A++++ for that fix.


          jgb

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          • A Offline
            Alencar
            last edited by

            dear Thomthom

            when I said "simple" I wanted to say that it was an easy program

            to use, no less important.

            "simplicity is characteristic of that is good"

            sorry if not properly expressed

            (I can not praise what is done well)

            your plugin is fantastic.

            Thanks.

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              @jgb said:

              I've been using Solid Inspector for about 3 weeks now, and only a few days ago discovered the <tab> key, arrow key and <enter> functions. Never thought to look down. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

              I use it so much I have the "S" key as a shortcut. ๐Ÿ‘

              But a most unintuitive aspect of SI is when it finds and highlights the problem(s). ๐Ÿ‘Ž

              Generally you want to delete the offender entity(s).
              The process is to toggle amongst the highlights to choose one, which is now indicated by a red circle. โ—
              Press <Enter> to zoom in on it.
              Place the white arrow cursor on the highlighted entity.
              Right click and select "Edit group". If you click "erase" here, it will delete the whole group.
              Keeping the cursor on the highlighted entity, Right Click and select "erase". That will delete the single cursor-ed entity only. Either 1 line or 1 face, but not the faces highlighted perimeter lines.
              And that leaves you in a form of limbo. ๐ŸŽ‰
              Now you have to select the "edit menu" and "close group" to get back into SI for the next problem.

              Since 99.9% of the time you want to simply delete the offending entity, why not simply;
              Place the cursor on it and just double click to delete the red highlighted entity.
              Then you toggle to the next.

              This obviates the wish for an auto-fix which is complex and where a simple deletion may not be the fix one needs to do.

              One other thing; when SI encounters a true solid (no errors) please say so, maybe a green circle around the group/comp. But do come out of the white arrow select mode.

              I have plans (desire) to make the inspector work inside the active group/component instead of outside. That would improve usability.

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • jgbJ Offline
                jgb
                last edited by

                Thomthom said "I have plans (desire) to......"

                I know THAT feeling all too well. ๐Ÿ˜†


                jgb

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                • mariochaM Offline
                  mariocha
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  make the inspector work inside the active group/component instead of outside. That would improve usability.

                  That would sure be a great improvement
                  on an already so useful plugin! ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ (icon of your username)
                  Now youv'e made me eager .

                  %(#008000)[Mario C.
                  Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                  • majidM Offline
                    majid
                    last edited by

                    this was realllllly handy to me .... nowadays I was modeling a chair part , to be produced by plastic, and need to be a solid, and it was really handy.
                    thanx a bunch.

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                    • E Offline
                      ericschimel
                      last edited by

                      Nice work Thomas! I am going to check this out. I really hate trying to find small holes in groups!

                      -Eric
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                      • K Offline
                        Kev_Ov
                        last edited by

                        Thank you so much!!!

                        Leaks had been bugging me for days!

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                        • E Offline
                          emartingr
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Nice work Thomas! I am going to check this out. I really hate trying to find small holes in groups!

                          Defects in solids are sometimes produced by carrying out SU boolean operations, and these are very difficult to find. SI is a most welcome tool. Thanks a lot!!

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                            d12dozr
                            last edited by

                            Thomthom, I use this plugin ALL the time...how do I send you a cookie?

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Marcus. I'll send one with yours. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                Cookies!!! ๐Ÿ˜„

                                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • mariochaM Offline
                                  mariocha
                                  last edited by

                                  Cookies!!! โ˜€

                                  %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                  Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                  • jgbJ Offline
                                    jgb
                                    last edited by

                                    Can't tell you TT how ecstatic I am with SI.
                                    Although I have some suggestions for improvement, it still amazes me how it can find tiny random elements that SU says are "~0 in" in length that prevent a solid from forming, that would be simply impossible to find without SI.

                                    When Google upgraded SU to form solids, something like SI should have been a native function, far more important and useful than merging solids that are only available with Pro. But Google has always displayed excellent software for internally identifying errors, but rate a serious ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž ๐Ÿ‘Ž for telling us exactly what the error is and where to find it to fix.

                                    My only suggestions to improve SI are;
                                    1- allow it to function INSIDE the group/comp. Right now it is a repetitive set of operations to
                                    ** select the group/comp,

                                    • call-up SI (which is my "S" key shortcut),
                                    • hit <return> to locate the next error,
                                    • zero in on it and place the cursor on the red highlighted object,
                                    • press <spacebar> to exit SI,
                                    • enter EDIT mode and
                                    • select the offender and then
                                    • delete it, which is 99.999% of the time the required fix.
                                    • Then, exit edit mode,
                                    • reselect the group/comp and, IF the solid has not formed (Entity Info box),
                                    • do it all over again.* This gets tedious. ๐ŸŽ‰

                                    If SI worked INSIDE the group/comp, you would only need to
                                    ** select the group/comp,

                                    • call-up SI,
                                    • then hit <enter> to select the first offender,
                                    • then <delete> to fix it,
                                    • <enter><delete> <enter><delete>* etc.
                                      โžก I would not want SI to automatically delete offenders, as in rare cases this is not the desired fix.

                                    2- If the group/comp is already or finally a valid solid, paint a green circle around it, and if in edit mode, exit the solid.


                                    jgb

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Yup - I want SI to work inside the active group as well. On the todo list.
                                      I just haven't had much time lately for plugins. ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • C Offline
                                        commandercup
                                        last edited by

                                        This is the greatest thing I have ever used.

                                        Thanks for making this!

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Version 1.1.0
                                          If nothing is selected then the current context will be inspected.

                                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            ๐Ÿ‘

                                            Thanks Thom

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