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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      Used it on this group and it worked except when it came to the 11 reversed faces. it left 3 faces reversed and when I went to manually flip them I noticed there were 4 reversed faces and not just 3.


      Group_111.skp

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        @krisidious said:

        Used it on this group and it worked except when it came to the 11 reversed faces. it left 3 faces reversed and when I went to manually flip them I noticed there were 4 reversed faces and not just 3.

        When I opened that file I visually saw 4 reversed faces - and SI detected 4.
        Where are the 11 you talked about? Different model?

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          Yes, this model is after I fixed the 11... I had already saved and didn't bother undoing back before it. sorry. I got 3 on mine with new version. strange. But I didn't restart SU after install? Not a big deal to me though.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            Can you reproduce it?
            If you didn't restart after updating you might be still have been using the old version.

            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • KrisidiousK Offline
              Krisidious
              last edited by

              after restarting SU I get this... ๐Ÿ˜„

              group111.JPG

              By: Kristoff Rand
              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              • jgbJ Offline
                jgb
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                I don't know if something ain't right or what....

                I really like the improved SI over what I had been using in SU 8 for years.

                I'm now on SU-15.

                But I just noticed that the found errors are not highlighted with big red/yellow circles. Up until yesterday, that was not a problem, as SI fixed 100% of my errors. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                But then there was a new error (can't remember exactly what) that only offered info and no fix. The problem was the line was so tiny, even in red, that it took me about an hour to find it in an object with over 4,000 lines. Only by zooming in and going over the whole thing twice (2 separate but identical errors) did I find the tiny red lines, deleting them, and all was OK.

                No red circle to guide me to the errors. Why?


                jgb

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @jgb said:

                  No red circle to guide me to the errors. Why?

                  Did you not see a label in the viewport pointing to the edge?
                  (got sample model or screenshot?)

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • jgbJ Offline
                    jgb
                    last edited by

                    I do not recall seeing anything other than the warnings box.

                    I will try to set up a "fail" and see if I get that same error message, or see a viewport.

                    Stay tuned......

                    10 min later ====================

                    Well I did not get the same error msg with this test, but I got an error msg without a circle or a "viewport" pointing me to where the error was, in this case an external face.
                    It is at the top center of the comp.

                    Unless I zoomed in, I would not see where it was, especially if it were much smaller.

                    The error is hard to find without a red circle.

                    Can't see the error!


                    jgb

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      I have an issue filed for adding back functionality to circle highlight the errors.

                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • jgbJ Offline
                        jgb
                        last edited by

                        That would be great. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                        Thank you.


                        jgb

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                        • jgbJ Offline
                          jgb
                          last edited by

                          Another problem.....

                          Inspector says "all Shiny" but SU-15 says not solid. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          Why??

                          SI2 says Shiny, but it is not solid.


                          jgb

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            I could see the problem immediately upon opening the file. There are two overlapping faces. Delete one of them and it's solid. Why SI2 doesn't detect it is a good question, though.
                            Screenshot - 5_25_2015 , 5_32_52 PM.png

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

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                            • jgbJ Offline
                              jgb
                              last edited by

                              Thank you. That is in the very same small area that I had a lot of SI2 found errors (most it could not fix) that took a while for me to find (no circles!!) and manually fix.

                              How did you find it so fast???


                              jgb

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                It showed up white when I opened the SKP file and appeared to flicker as I orbited indicating z-fighting. It wasn't difficult at all to locate.

                                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                                G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                                M30

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                                • BoxB Offline
                                  Box
                                  last edited by

                                  Use Tab to cycle through.

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    SketchUp perform a very naive manifold test - if all edges have exactly 2 faces connected.
                                    However - there are edge cases where this fails, like with this model:
                                    2015-05-26_17h35_43.png

                                    Solid Inspector use a different method to detect solids. However, in this case with the overlapping face (which shouldn't happen) it fails to detect this anomaly.

                                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • jgbJ Offline
                                      jgb
                                      last edited by

                                      Now that I knew where to look, I copied the comp to 1 side and saw the white face.
                                      Gone in 5 seconds and fixed! Thanks again Dave. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                                      In its original location those gear teeth in that area were visually covered by another gear (comp) so I could not see it. It was also the same area that SI2 found numerous non-fixable errors, and in my manual search and cleanup, missed that one. I never looked at the isolated comp I sent to this thread.

                                      ThomThom: Is this sort of error findable or fixable in SI2?
                                      I don't recall having this sort of error undetected in earlier SU-8 versions of SI.


                                      jgb

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        I ran it in CleanUp - which actually does look for these kind of things (but off by default because it's a very slow thing to do) but even that seemed to fail to detect it.
                                        Not sure what's going on with that model...

                                        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • jgbJ Offline
                                          jgb
                                          last edited by

                                          Another "shiny" but flawed non-solid. Multiple errors not detected; open faces, multiple faces (the bottom has 3 faces).

                                          I was adding corner cubes and did an interim solid check

                                          There were other errors it fixed, but somehow not these.

                                          SI2 reports "shiny" but it is not.


                                          jgb

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            hm.. yea - another model where some faces have overlapping faces and invalid edge loops. Skrews up the algorithm. Have to look into catching that. Do a validity check before the manifold check.

                                            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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