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    • H Offline
      hygicell
      last edited by

      I think we have established that ttVertex works, apart for the solids inspector error
      I am ready to do as you recommend

      thought it would maybe spare us some time if first I test with all extensions except ttVertex disabled in the preferences window:
      ScreenHunter_33 Oct. 10 13.45.jpg
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      didn't do much good, quite the contrary 😠
      so I will proceed
      but while I start doing what you ask, maybe you can inspect if at first sight there might be a conflict that has been exposed:

      Error Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/TT_Vertex/loader.rb
      uninitialized constant TT_VertexError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_blend.rb
      undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_crvsmth.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_ctrlpnts.rb
      undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_fllwedgs.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_mshstick.rb
      undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pathface.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_pnts2mesh.rb
      undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_recursive.rb undefined method add_item' for nil:NilClassError Loading File C:/Program Files (x86)/Google/Google SketchUp 8/Plugins/lss_toolbar/lss_tlbr_common.rb
      undefined method `add_separator' for nil:NilClass

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
        last edited by

        Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

        Not sure about that error. I'm unfamiliar with that is prefixed with "lss"... But this doesn't mean immediately there's a conflict with that. Maybe something it required was deactivated. This is why to be sure one need to do one by one - I'm afraid.

        Just to be 100% sure I've understood correctly: Vertex Tools loads with no issues when it's installed by itself?

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        • H Offline
          hygicell
          last edited by

          you must be hungry by now,
          so I have sent you a box of cookies (Belgian First Quality Pralines)
          Frank
          😍

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @hygicell said:

            you must be hungry by now,
            so I have sent you a box of cookies
            Frank

            😲

            That was mighty kind of you! Now let us hope we can pin down the source of your issue. I'll feel really bad if I cannot help. 😕

            Btw, are you going to Basecamp?

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • H Offline
              hygicell
              last edited by

              I will proceed along your instructions

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              • H Offline
                hygicell
                last edited by

                @thomthom said:

                Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                would make debugging fast and easy

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  @hygicell said:

                  @thomthom said:

                  Not all plugins can be enabled/disabled via the Extension list.

                  a suggestion for a plugin or for sketchup?
                  would make debugging fast and easy

                  I think Dana was working on a Plugin Manager... ...I'll poke him and query the status.

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    Whoa! After a remote session (thanks to Teamviewer) I found the culprit! It was organizer which doesn't just modify the menus etc, it even loads the files it iterates - causing Vertex Tools' loader.rb to be loaded before tt_vertex.rb - because it made the assumption that nothing other than tt_vertex.rb would be loading it. 😒

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      hygicell
                      last edited by

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        Organizer?

                        Etaoin Shrdlu

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                        (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                        G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                        M30

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          favicon

                          (www.smustard.com)

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Ah. So that's not so good.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

                            %

                            (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                            G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                            M30

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              It does say in the description of Organizer that sub-folders in the plugins folder needs to be excluded (because it assumes all sub-folders otherwise belongs to Smustard... 😕 )

                              But I had no idea how that plugin worked. I was just somewhat aware it did something with the menus. So now I've been debugging, with my user who's also had to deal with this, for the last three days. I don't like the invasive behaviour of Organizer.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Neither had I !

                                @unknownuser said:

                                There is also a mechanism for developers to easily exclude their subfolders so Organizer will not try to load the contents of those folders. This should result in a smoother experience for users, who won't have to contend with manually maintaining the excluded folders list in the SmustardOrganizerExcludeFolders.txt file.

                                To do this: in your subfolder, create an empty text file called "exclude.txt" - that's it!
                                I too don't like the way that 'other developers' [AKA most of us] are expected to avoid their sledgehammer.
                                There are many tools that have subfolders of other files that don't auto-load...
                                They never should be auto-loaded anyway !? Surely that must be up to loader-scripts or extension-loaders to decide... Why has RickW made it this way at all ?
                                Have you messaged him ??
                                Another candidate for the 'Quarantine Badge' 😒

                                TIG

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Yea - as it is now it by-passes the Extension mechanism of Plugins. Unless they exclude themselves. Which is really not something he should expect a developer to do. It shouldn't be an opt-out system. How on earth is a developer expected to know about the behaviour of another plugin like that?

                                  I've not contacted him, no. I exhausted my computer time today debugging this.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm puzzled why he made the Plugins folderstructure into the hierarchy of the custom menus... o_O

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      jokewalker
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi All!

                                      Sorry for posting this without first combing through the preceding pages. My anti-virus (Kaspersky) is going crazy over the tt_api.so file thinking it's malware. Anyone else encountering this? Didn't seem to bother anything up until just recently. Puzzling.....

                                      Thoughts?! Thanks in advance!

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes, there's been a few reports. Tell Kaspersky to leave the file alone. (And please also make a report to Kaspersky about the false negative. Some other users has already reported it, but maybe they bump up the priority if more people complain.)

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          hygicell
                                          last edited by

                                          maybe someone knows a way to disable the quarantine for one specific file inside Kapersky?
                                          I didn't know the way to do that,
                                          so took the radical decision to dump Kapersky
                                          installed ZoneAlarm instead.

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                                            FatKid73
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi All,
                                            I'm fairly new to Sketchup, and am trying to install the Cleanup plugin - I have a current model that's massive and therefore causing problems in rendering plugins such as Lumenrt or Maxwell Render -
                                            Could someone please walk me thru the install of the Cleanup plugin for Mac?
                                            Any help would be appreciated - Thanks.

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