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    An exercise: DRAWING A PARISIAN FENCE

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    • TaffGochT Offline
      TaffGoch
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      Simon,

      I didn't pursue the precise defining of the calculations, but I sensed the general concept of the relationships.

      When I started on my second model, I roughly estimated a "longitude-to-latitude" ratio that should (might) produce a more-complex, tighter spiral with less slope, and six loops.

      As an intellectual pursuit, yours is a good mental exercise. (Perhaps, if it were mid-winter, and I was snowed-in, then I would have time to wrestle with a precise definition.) 😆

      -Taff

      "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        @taffgoch said:

        (Perhaps, if it were mid-winter, and I was snowed-in, then I would have time to wrestle with a precise definition.) 😆

        😆

        End of the exercise I suppose 😉

        simon!

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
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          by Cosycat

          http://www.webdesignmash.com/trial/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/davidope10.gif

          👍 😉 sim

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          • TaffGochT Offline
            TaffGoch
            last edited by

            Cosycat's animated image is inspiring. I thought I'd give it a try, too:

            http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss233/taffgoch/Torus_Spiral.gif

            -Taff

            [ EDIT: I see that Cosycat's image is a creation of David Ope. ]
            http://www.adaptcreative.co.uk/...
            http://dvdp.tumblr.com/...

            "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by

              Hi Taff! impressive***

              Can you say a little about your technique and the softs you're using? Please!
              (and very nice links 😉 )

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
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                @simon le bon said:

                Hi Taff! impressive***

                Can you say a little about your technique and the softs you're using? Please!

                Looks like sketchup physics and a screen recorder(camstudio maybe).

                Taff if u used Camstudio,please let me know ur settings ,i can t make it record that smoother.
                Thanks!

                Elisei (sketchupper)


                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                • R Offline
                  Roger
                  last edited by

                  Do not, I repeat "DO NOT" stare at these images for 15 minutes and then try to walk down the stairs!

                  http://www.azcreative.com

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                  • TaffGochT Offline
                    TaffGoch
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    Do not, I repeat "DO NOT" stare at these images for 15 minutes and then try to walk down the stairs!

                    😆 Not to mention just walking across the room, without losing your lunch! 😆

                    -Taff

                    "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                    • TaffGochT Offline
                      TaffGoch
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                      Simon & Elisei,

                      I tried using Camstudio, initially, but the results were poor. Camstudio is easy, but doesn't always provide quality results. It's great, for what it is intended, but there is a better option for a "looped" animation of limited frames -- GIF animation software. (This animation is composed of only 15 frames.)

                      I created the frames from SketchUp 2D exports, rotating the torus 2° each interval, producing 30° total rotation. (This matches the model component rotation of one spiral "tube" to the next.)

                      I kept the SketchUp viewpoint constant, and rotated the torus, to avoid any camera positioning problems. I could have established 15 camera locations, to produce 15 scenes, but the way I did it was quicker. (Creating 15 camera/scene postions, however, does have the advantage that they can be saved in the model file, for subsequent use.)

                      I assembled the 15 frames into a GIF animation, using JASC "Animation Shop," which I bought (cheap) over ten years ago. It's my understanding that COREL bought-out JASC. The older "Animation Shop" (vs 3) can be downloaded from several online sites, or you can use one of the MANY other freeware GIF animators, available online.

                      [NOTE: I used the same technique to create my avatar.]

                      -Taff

                      "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                      • S Offline
                        Simon B
                        last edited by

                        Well, it works for me.

                        More inspiration here

                        😉

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                        • ArcA Offline
                          Arc
                          last edited by

                          Play with tours and component stringer.
                          tours11.jpg
                          tours12.jpg

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Can I believe it !!! another Simon B!? 😎 + 😎 = 😆

                            Hi Arc ( you have found the link of "your" animated picture in this thread I guess 😉 ) You like to play with Component Stringer; me too. 👍 nice result.

                            I have made my own try with animation on this spiral cone . Dear Taff I don't know why I don't reach the smoothness of yours ~~

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/SC04_cropped.gif

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/SC04_cropped.gif

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/SC04_cropped.gif

                            *simon

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                            • TaffGochT Offline
                              TaffGoch
                              last edited by

                              @simon le bon said:

                              "...Taff I don't know why I don't reach the smoothness of yours..."

                              Simon,

                              The first and last frame appear to be the same, which looks like a pause, or stutter, in the animation. I deleted the last frame, and it's somewhat better:

                              Edited
                              However, now there's a slight "jump" in the animation. 😕 I can only guess that there must have been a variation in the degree-of-rotation for one of the frames.

                              -Taff

                              "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
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                                Hi Taff,
                                Thank you to watch and dissect 😉

                                I thought the problem was coming from a visual bip due to the duplication of the loop..
                                In fact I had made mistakes. It is very difficult for me to maintain 15 times the same process. My mind goes away;.

                                To make it easy and unmistaken, this time, I had rotated copied the SpiralCone 2°x14 (the 15th is the same than the first)
                                and had placed each copy in its own layer ( 01;02;etc..) and had make them visible one by one.

                                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/SpiralCone5.gif

                                This time it seems working good 😮

                                ++simon

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                                • BoxB Online
                                  Box
                                  last edited by

                                  Just to help possibly simplify the animations for you.
                                  Use scenes, create one scene at front one scene at back( or side to side, whichever works best for you) and export the animation as JPGs.
                                  You can specify how many Frames per second in the export and resolution then combine in the gif program of your choice.

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    very easy indeed dear Box

                                    Here is my "BoxCube" 😉 made in a minute with 41 pics 320X240 = 283 Ko

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/BoxCube.gif

                                    ++simon

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                                    • BoxB Online
                                      Box
                                      last edited by

                                      Happy to help.
                                      You can use this method for any number of scenes, so the cube can roll over or zoom in and out or even fly off the screen.
                                      And reducing the number of colours in the gif will bring the file size down, I make a lot of animated avatars for people on another site and the file limit there 19.5 kb, so you learn to get everything out of each pixel.

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                                      • TaffGochT Offline
                                        TaffGoch
                                        last edited by

                                        I found, online, this drawing from an old book...

                                        3knot.png
                                        ...and wanted to produce the center "coil" in SketchUp. After trial-and-error with the torus "grid" spacing, I finally was able to model (and render) this:

                                        Torus3.jpg
                                        -Taff


                                        Model available in the Google 3D Warehouse:
                                        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=c7113517b4de5d982137e32e8ebf2b1

                                        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=c7113517b4de5d982137e32e8ebf2b1&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1281117295000

                                        "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          Dear Taff,

                                          Seems to be an interesting variation of our exercise.
                                          I'm actually a bit too much out of the game to participate actively. You know, holidays, taking some rest, and big business with my garden etc..

                                          first dissection 😉 :

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence032_th.jpg


                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ParisianFence033_th.jpg

                                          friendly, simon

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                                          • TaffGochT Offline
                                            TaffGoch
                                            last edited by

                                            I didn't think there were enough colors & shadow details in the first render... 😆

                                            Facetted_3.jpg
                                            -Taff

                                            "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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