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    • Rich O BrienR Online
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      πŸ‘
      You saved me some clicks Rocky, but it looks like i fall into the third class 😲

      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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        xrok1
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        sorry TIG 🀣

        @unknownuser said:

        Or maybe a lathe like action around an axis?

        for this there's extrude edges by lathe. πŸ˜‰


        Capture1.JPG

        β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          🀣

          You should render that with a nice bump map πŸ˜‰

          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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            xrok1
            last edited by

            quit provoking me! πŸ˜†


            Capture1.JPG

            β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              Your Bump is maybe not enough prononced πŸ˜‰
              Remember my old one πŸ’š Moi = Moment of Inspiration, a very cool prog! 😎

              http://moi3d.com/gallery/images/Pod02.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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                Tim Danaher
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                Cheers, xrok...

                And TIG... you win an internet:

                EEbyFace.jpg

                BTW, I'm assuming that weld.rb aligns the polyline so that all its segments are in the same direction?

                Cheers,

                Tim

                http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                  Tim Danaher
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                  So what would you suggest is the right e-by- plugin to sweep the attached profile round the curve? I want to see if I can get a smoother result than with the Follow Me tool (see my iPod Thread here: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27988)


                  iPod-touch-EEbyFace.skp

                  Cheers,

                  Tim

                  http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                    xrok1
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                    @tim danaher said:

                    BTW, I'm assuming that weld.rb aligns the polyline so that all its segments are in the same direction?

                    no! πŸ˜† find the thread. weld connects all the segments together so they form 1. (polyline)

                    β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
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                      Weld.rb does sort the vertices of the selected lines/arcs so that the final curve [polyline] is ordered...

                      TIG

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
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                        I'd use FollowMe for this as it's pretty simple ?Capture.PNG
                        PS: Your axes are upside down ! πŸ˜’

                        TIG

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                          xrok1
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                          @unknownuser said:

                          PS: Your axes are upside down !

                          😳 is that what it was. πŸ˜† i couldn't get that model to anything i wanted it to. i think tim was actually testing us! πŸ‘Ώ well TIG tou passed, i failed 😳 πŸ˜†

                          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                            Tim Danaher
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                            @tig said:

                            I'd use FollowMe for this as it's pretty simple ?[attachment=0:1o4wejcd]<!-- ia0 -->Capture.PNG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1o4wejcd]
                            PS: Your axes are upside down ! πŸ˜’

                            Which is exactly what I'd done in the linked post... it's just that the rounding produced isn't too good: there are kinks at the corners that I'd like to get rid of.

                            Cheers,

                            Tim

                            http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                              August
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                              @tig said:

                              A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

                              "Take time to appreciate the fact that thorn bushes have roses."

                              β€œAn idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                              [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @tim danaher said:

                                Which is exactly what I'd done in the linked post... it's just that the rounding produced isn't too good: there are kinks at the corners that I'd like to get rid of.

                                There were no kinks in my plain FollowMe version ? Can you post a screen-shot ? πŸ˜•

                                TIG

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                                  Tim Danaher
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                                  Sure, TIG... here you go:

                                  iPodTouch.jpg

                                  I should probably attach the .skp too:

                                  iPod-touch-SUC.skp

                                  Cheers,

                                  Tim

                                  http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                                    gohch
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                                    hi Tim,
                                    sorry for the VERY LATE reply to your question, 😳
                                    The extrude tool in 1001bit is meant for a different purpose actually, it's meant for extruding a profile through some curve slope, while maintaining 'upright' cross sectional profile.
                                    for example, ramps, handrails for spiral staircases etc.
                                    In order to do that, the sectional profile constantly twist itself to maintain as 'upright' as possible.
                                    This can be seen in the extrusion along a sloping curve(extruded entity on the right) below. The profile struggles to maintain upright always.
                                    extrude1-limitation.gif
                                    This, however has some limitation: i.e. it cannot handle vertical edges, because vertical edges has no 'upright' cross section.
                                    hence the tool failed.
                                    extrude_problem1.png

                                    In the event of a curved path that goes backwards on a vertical plane, the script will have to perform an immediate 180 degree abrupt twist to keep 'upright', in a single short segment, which will distort the entire profile. Hence it causes an error and stops there.

                                    The solution to this scenario depends a lot on what you want to achieve;

                                    1. to continue the profile -- that will lead to the original upwards direction becoming downwards after this turn.
                                    2. to start twisting much earlier before this backward curve, so that you have a smooth twisting transformation along this curve -- this will create a long stretch where a lot of segments are not maintained 'upright'

                                    Both the above doesn't agree with the original logic of this tool -- to maintain 'upright' in every segment.
                                    i haven't come across to what is the best way to handle vertical edges yet 😞
                                    I'm afraid the extrude along path tool is not really suitable for this purpose 😳

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                                    • arail1A Offline
                                      arail1
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                                      1001 Tools Extrude Selected Profile Along Selected Path is a very different tool than Follow Me.
                                      Follow Me extrudes a profile without reference to the world axis.
                                      In some cases that doesn't work - a good example is handrails.
                                      Handrails always have to be level to the ground (or level along the XY axis) no matter their pitch or direction.
                                      That's what 1001 Tools Extrude does.

                                      Notice the orientation of the top rectangle in these examples.
                                      I would take your chair frame and tilt it 30 degrees, extrude and then rotate it back into position.


                                      1001Tool.JPG

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                                      • GaieusG Offline
                                        Gaieus
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                                        @arail1 said:

                                        Handrails always have to be level to the ground (or level along the XY axis) no matter their pitch or direction.

                                        That's what FollowMe and Keep would also do:
                                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=16465

                                        Gai...

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                                          xrok1
                                          last edited by

                                          @arail1 said:

                                          1001 Tools Extrude
                                          I would take your chair frame and tilt it 30 degrees, extrude and then rotate it back into position.
                                          \

                                          that works perfectly! πŸ˜„ i wonder if Goh might think of modifying his script so that if it hit a vertical it will rotate the profile automatically, continue on, then put it back in its original orientation when its done? πŸ˜‰ or use whatever method FAK and extrude tools use.

                                          β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                          • arail1A Offline
                                            arail1
                                            last edited by

                                            @gaieus said:

                                            @arail1 said:

                                            Handrails always have to be level to the ground (or level along the XY axis) no matter their pitch or direction.

                                            That's what FollowMe and Keep would also do:
                                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=16465

                                            You're absolutely right. I wasn't aware of that ruby - I need to be more up to date with SketchUp. I'm spending too much time over there in modoland. Thanks


                                            FAK.jpg

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