Crazy problem with Right Click

[jpalm32]

This is driving crazy! I'll try to explain.
Simple drawing, say a box, select all, right click make component or group. works!
same drawing; add texture (simple color); right click (inside group or component); get Podium or IDX material!Works!
Then after working on drawing for awhile can't make group or component by right clicking, can by edit menu.
Now I can't right click and get any podium or IDX material edit.
Happens often. If I reboot to new drawing, start over all works.
My problem is working any drawing for awhile, I can't make components or groups by right clicking.
Can't edit material with Podium or IDX.
Size of drawing doesn't seem to be a issues and doesn't happen all the time.
Checked all HW-SW driver issues., not having issues with other SW.
Vista Ultimate 64 ; ^ GB; SU 7.1

[Gaieus]

Yup, it's a known problem. See here, too:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23925
closing and reopening SU fixes it (for another while)

[jpalm32]

@gaieus said:

Yup, it's a known problem. See here, too:
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23925
closing and reopening SU fixes it (for another while)

Thank you! Been wasting time on this. I Try to read before I post but didn't catch the ref. post.

[Gaieus]

It's sunken quite deep by now, no wonder one cannot find easily (I just remembered that I referred someone to it the other day).

[solo]

Any news on a bug fix?

As this and the nomadic toolbar is making for a lousy SU experience.

[Gaieus]

I have gotten rid of the toolbars (undocked them) long ago. This has no fix as of yet. What I guess they won't even fix it in this release although you never know what these SU Folks come up with any time.

[TIG]

Couldn't agree more...
The last response from Google was that they 'were looking into it' ... 'but the next version is taking most of their resources, as it's more important'... but, as I said, 'It'd be a good idea to fix some of these basics first' - to avoid the risk of alienating a lot of users immediately who might not then look at v8 after their v7 woes...

[jpalm32]

64 Bit support is well over due!
I'm getting really frustrated with SU. Don't get me wrong, it's useful but there comes a point...
Makes one appreciate the qualtity of work that goes into AutoCad. Used it on a W98 doing a large complex, can't remember it crashing. Not that Autodesk has any better attitude.
I really appreciate the talent of you guys that have mastered it and the renderings. I send your work to many people.

[jpalm32]

As a side note: My wife does large legal docs in Word and says she has a problem when she uses right click often, needs to save and reload doc.

[thomthom]

At work I've been forced to diable most of my plugins - as that improve the situation. But the folder fill up as I need to re-add plugins as I need them.

[lapx]

This and the nomadic toolbar is amateur and should be fixed immediately
While im on my horse there needs to be better transition form cad circles to sketchup!
What are these guy's at google doing all this time, playing ping pong!

[solo]

@unknownuser said:

What are these guy's at google doing all this time, playing ping pong!

Planning base camp 2011 Hawaii maybe?

[jhauswirth]

The problem is Ruby scripts are calling-
UI::Command.new
and not attaching the new command to a menu item.

If you want to verify this run-

for i in 0..1000 do
cmd = UI::Command.new("Tester") { UI.messagebox("Hello World") }
end

I can see Ruby scripts creating new commands on each right mouse click.
Every new command creates a unique command ID in SU and there are only 1000
command IDs available. Normally a command is attached to a menu and when
the menu goes away the IDs are recycled, but since these commands are not
attached to a menu, they don't get recycled.
I'm going to try and figure out how to dump the list of commands (they have
menu item text) so that people can see who's causing the problem.

[thomthom]

Ah! This is great news!

The Mighty Bug Hunt of 2010 is now officially open!

[thomthom]

@jhauswirth said:

I'm going to try and figure out how to dump the list of commands (they have
menu item text) so that people can see who's causing the problem.

ObjectSpace.each_object(UI::Command) {|x| p x }
Gives you access to each UI::Command object. But the class has only setter methods defined. And instance_variables on an instance of UI::Command returns empty.

[thomthom]

@jhauswirth said:

Normally a command is attached to a menu and when
the menu goes away the IDs are recycled, but since these commands are not
attached to a menu, they don't get recycled.

What is the command is used in both menus and toolbars? or just toolbars?
I often create an instance of a Command when both a menu and a toolbar is executing the same command.

[jpalm32]

[quote="thomthom":287u3y55]
@jhauswirth said:

I'm going to try and figure out how to dump the list of commands (they have
menu item text) so that people can see who's causing the problem.

ObjectSpace.each_object(UI::Command) {|x| p x }
Gives you access to each UI::Command object. But the class has only setter methods defined. And instance_variables on an instance of UI::Command

Yeh! What ThomThom said.
Really! You guys scare me sometimes.

[jeff hammond]

interesting turn of events..
i've read a lot of these right-click posts and thought they were something to do with windows because i've never experienced the problem or heard of another mac user with the problem.
sounds like it should affect mac users as well then.. maybe none of the mac users here have the trouble ruby installed?
must be one of those windows specific exporters or something?

[edit] hmm.. well, except for the fact that it's been reproducible without using plugins at all

[thomthom]

@unknownuser said:

[edit] hmm.. well, except for the fact that it's been reproducible without using plugins at all

By right clicking repeatedly on geometry without cancelling the menu. But the menus then usually returns ones you cancel it.

[jeff hammond]

@thomthom said:

@unknownuser said:

[edit] hmm.. well, except for the fact that it's been reproducible without using plugins at all

By right clicking repeatedly on geometry without cancelling the menu. But the menus then usually returns ones you cancel it.

i shit you not, i just tried rightclicking on a square at least 800 times .. no glitches