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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Here's another way - entirely by hand - without Plugins [from a Plugin-fiend] 😉Capture.PNGHelicalStairWithoutPlugins.skp

      TIG

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      • EdsonE Offline
        Edson
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        beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
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          @edson said:

          beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

          Maybe I should try some .... 🤣

          TIG

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          • charly2008C Offline
            charly2008
            last edited by

            FollowMeand keep with Grow could be the ideal solution.


            Spiral stair.jpg

            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I deliberately avoided mentioning my Grow tool as I was trying to show it all 'long-hand'... 😒

              TIG

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Hi TIG,

                shure you can help me to solve a small problem with Grow. How can i manage that the Center of the Grow object meets a individual axe.

                Thanks in advance

                Karlheinz


                Spiral stair.jpg


                Spiral stair1.jpg

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Manipulate the component's axis and its location relative to the 'growth' point....

                  TIG

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                  • charly2008C Offline
                    charly2008
                    last edited by

                    The final result with FollowMeandKeep and Grow.


                    Spiral stair.jpg


                    Spiral stair1.jpg

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                    • honoluludesktopH Offline
                      honoluludesktop
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                      You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

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                      • P Offline
                        pmiller
                        last edited by

                        No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
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                          But if you put a traffic dividing handrail right down the middle, then make the inside lane flat and smooth, you could have a really nice safe up half with wide treads, and a nice spiral slide down lane. 😄

                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                          All my Plugins I've written

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • W Offline
                              watkins
                              last edited by

                              Inspired by TIG, and all done without plugins. A handrail would be fairly easy to include in the model.


                              Spiral staircase_Bob.skp


                              Spiral staircase_Bob.jpg

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                              • daleD Offline
                                dale
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                                Well there will be a lot of down time at workplaces around the world now Pilou....
                                It ia a mythical thread, I think it gave mimi the title "stairmaster" because of the number of great posts she made.

                                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                • charly2008C Offline
                                  charly2008
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Spiral stair Fans,

                                  Here a few further examples. The construction is best started at the point of origin. Then one has the exact center of the construction.

                                  I have also tried to cover the bottom of the stairs with Follow Me and Keep but this was not successful. Only the first stair was covered.

                                  For the hand rail i tried the Balustrade Rubies but both doesn't work in my Sketchup 7.


                                  Spiral stair.jpg


                                  Spiral stair2.jpg


                                  Spiral stair.skp

                                  He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                  • W Offline
                                    watkins
                                    last edited by

                                    Finished model with handrail


                                    Spiral staircase_finished.jpg


                                    Spiral staircase_finished.skp

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                                    • EdsonE Offline
                                      Edson
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                                      @honoluludesktop said:

                                      You guys are great, hope I can find this post if I ever do a spiral stairs in SU.

                                      how about bookmarking it? 😉

                                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                      • EdsonE Offline
                                        Edson
                                        last edited by

                                        @pmiller said:

                                        No offense to all you spiral stair makers but the wide stairs that you show with winders coming to a narrow point would be very dangerous (especially in descent). I would suggest a bigger inside hole or solid radius to assure a minimum tread depth. That's why typical library or residential stairs are quite narrow in width so as to keep a person in the middle of the tread with proper depth for the foot. Such wide stairs with point winders would be prohibited by code in the US, even for non-egress stairs in commercial stuctures.

                                        no offense taken, paul. if you look at the last one i posted it has an inside radius of 50cm which makes for at least 15cm (6") at ther narrowest point. in my opinion, for a spiral stair to be confortable it must be quite wide as the one in the picture shown at my first post.

                                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          To repeat an earlier thread...
                                          When making spiral steps there are often rules/codes to adhere to..
                                          In the UK on narrower flights <1m [typically domestic or small commercial flights] you must have at least 50mm of plan-tread at the innermost part and the plan-tread on the centerline should be even for every step, and follow the rule 2R+G >=550mm <=700mm - where R is the Rise and G is the Going [plan-tread].
                                          If you draw this in plan it limits the relative angle of adjacent nosings and effectively sets a limit on the taper angle between them = ~15degrees depending on the configuration etc...
                                          For wider stairs you measure in from both edges [strings] 270mm and the same max/min pitch applies, 2R+G >=550mm <=700mm to the two locations
                                          Any landings shall be the same length as their width measured along their centerline.
                                          The minimum/maximum allowable Rise and Going varies with the building type too.
                                          'Private Stair'[one dwelling] R >=155mm <=220mm and G >=223mm <=300mm [vertical pitch is also limited to 42 degrees - usually trapped by 2R+G rules]
                                          'Institutional and Assembly Stair' R >=135mm <=180mm and G >=280mm <=340mm
                                          'Other Stair' R >=150mm <=190mm and G >=250mm <=320mm
                                          BUT AD-Part-M [accessible/disabled=all commercial/public building etc] R <= 170mm G >= 250mm
                                          So it's best to draw some test treads and place rotate a couple to see it they are right before committing to a complex 3D assembly...
                                          🤓

                                          TIG

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                                          • EdsonE Offline
                                            Edson
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            do you know this mythical thread? 😉

                                            i wish i had access to it. according to ppb i do not have permission to access that page. i wonder how they expect me to participate more if i am not allowed to access certain threads.

                                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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