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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by

      I pursued my idea with : "La jolie petite fontaine"

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_048th.jpg

      *s

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      • M Offline
        Morphing_24
        last edited by

        Hey TIG
        I have just downloaded this plugin and I tried to find an answer here if there is always a default number of ribs . Everytime, I find that there are always 21 ribs and I have no idea how to change it. How can I do it??
        thanks

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          That number depends on the segments in the "rail/profiles's" curve - so add/subtract segments to change that...
          Your 'rail/profile' must have 20 segments >> 21 "ends" ???
          😒

          TIG

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          • M Offline
            Morphing_24
            last edited by

            thanks, problem solved 😄
            But now i have one problem and another question.
            I use a macbook pro and this only happens on mac not on the PC generally. The problem is that whenever I try to use the extrude edges by rail by face, and most of the time after I choose profiles and rails it crashes and the crashDialogHeader appears . What do you think it might be??
            And the other question is if the number of ribs depend on the segments, I made a curve using the line tool but it looks really edgy, and if I draw a line with the bezier tool, how can I control the number of ribs using this tool and at the same time keeping it smooth?
            Thanks in advance

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              The Bezier tool has an Edit option on its toolbar - so use that to change the number of segments in a curve - it's similar to how you can change the segmentation of an Arc in 'Entity Info'.

              TIG

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              • charly2008C Offline
                charly2008
                last edited by

                Hi TIG,

                I find your EEbyFace is very suitable for the construction of Gothic vaults. But one problem I have! How can I predetermine the orientation of the final Profile exactly? So far I have turned the initial profile until I accidentally had the desired direction. Is there a simpler solution?

                Charly


                Extrude 1.JPG


                Extrude.JPG


                Extrude.skp


                Extrude 1.JPG

                He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  When you draw the 'Profile' face flat on the ground its Y [green] axis is used as the Z up axis of the extrusion. If this extrusion starts flat it is kept at Y [?] 😕

                  TIG

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                  • J Offline
                    joebamber
                    last edited by

                    TIG - the other extrusion tools are awesome and i now use them as much as i can,

                    But the Extrusion by Rail by Face; just has never worked for me, i've included pictures for you to understand...

                    It always says i haven't selected the face and so wont extrude them across either rails or profiles (though as you can see, i defintly did select it),

                    I have a MAC pro with sketchup 7 - and on bootcamp in both MAC and PC worlds i get this trouble... 😢


                    TIG QUESTION.jpg

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      It's because your selected Face isn't made 'FLAT' - i.e. it must line flat on the ground, and its Y [green] axis will be taken as the 'UP' direction when extruding it. It doesn't matter if it faces up or down the tool assumes it's facing up anyway!
                      Just rotate it about an edge so it's 'flat' on the ground.

                      TIG

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                      • S Offline
                        stefx
                        last edited by

                        Hi TIG,
                        I use a MacBook too and I have the same problem of Morphin_24....have you got any idea to solve that?
                        Thank you very much.

                        Stef.

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          stefx

                          You can control the number of points in a Bezier curve - as explained in my earlier response.
                          Can you give any more info or an example SKP with a failing set of curves ?
                          PM or posted 😕

                          TIG

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                            stefx
                            last edited by

                            It is a simple bunch of curves....could you explain how i can manage the segments with the bezier curves?
                            thank you very much.

                            Stef.


                            12~.skp

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              You don't have Beziers 😕 They are 'Arcs' and you need to use the built-in tool 'Entity Info' to manage those. They have 12 segments which is reasonable. Reduce the face's size/shape to get 'bars' formed...
                              See this illustration for more detailsCapture.PNG

                              TIG

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                                shoeb_cars
                                last edited by

                                you are like right outta a scifi movie mahnnn....awesome
                                RESPECT +++

                                consider me ur fan... ☀

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                                • J Offline
                                  joebamber
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks TIG - Noobie error here --> <--
                                  😄

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                                  • S Offline
                                    stefx
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Tig,
                                    Thank you for your tutorial...
                                    managing the number of segments is working...!
                                    In my last attempts I see the ribs are really thick.....see the screenshot... 😞
                                    basically I cannot have the same result of your first post in this topic..

                                    any suggestion?


                                    Schermata 2010-08-27 a 13.29.40.png

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                                    • D Offline
                                      d12dozr
                                      last edited by

                                      Stefx, the ribs should be exactly the same size as your square(profile/face) on the ground, so maybe make your profile smaller?

                                      3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                      http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ditto.
                                        If you look in the picture in the first topic the face is quite tiny compared to the rib spacing...
                                        The cross-section of the ribs will be made to match the face.
                                        Scale it smaller if needed...
                                        Small face >>> thin ribs
                                        Big face >>> fat ribs
                                        Face long in Y [green] >>> 'tall' ribs
                                        Face long in X [red] >>> 'wide' ribs
                                        etc 😒

                                        TIG

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                                        • J Offline
                                          joebamber
                                          last edited by

                                          hello TIG ! - I'm trying to make a double curved mesh with only square faces.

                                          With 'extrusion by rails'; if more than 1 rail is used; erasing coplanar edges (in the post curve production) cannot make the faces square and do not delete coplanar edges.

                                          Do you get this too? (sorry if this another noobie error with these tools)

                                          Joe

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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            Hey Joe,

                                            Those lines aren't coplaner so they won't delete without deleting the adjoining faces as well

                                            To make a quad, you need at least two of the edges to be parallel. With complex curved surfaces like you're trying create, very rarely will a quad happen and even then, they're sporadically located throughout the mesh.

                                            Why do you need quads though if you don't mind me asking?

                                            dotdotdot

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