Bonzai 2.0 released
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@bonzai3d support said:
Tom,
Thanks for the suggestion regarding "Ledas." (Yes, we are aware of them...)
Yes, Dimitry seems like a very pleasant and approachable chap. It's really nice to know that there is finally another 3D parametric kernel out there, ready to take on the likes of Spatial and Parasolid.
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Hey guys, anyone done any UV mapping with Bonsai yet?
I need to map a chair cover for an SU model, I have seen the video tutorial but I'm still lost, seems that he has edit windows that I cannot find, the tutorial jumps to an edit applet without showing where in the world one finds it.
So, my question is... anyone got a tutorial or explanation on how to import an SU model and map UV's correctly then back into SU?
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Hi Pete,
I've been trying the same but seems that it's not a feature. 'Texture Mapping' seems what is associated with Bonzai3d. Here's what CG Forum members say...
@unknownuser said:
no UV editor. but if you are working in nurbs it does map correctly to curved surfaces. you can see a video about it here:
look for "texture mapping"
if you figure it out or any member does, please post there solution.
What's your opinion so far Pete?
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I guess you are right, parametric mapping (which I need) only works with Nurbs, the problem is the cushion is modeled with SU and once imported you are limited to what UV mapping you can do.
I will need to use Vue as it can kinda achieve a result that is okay (not great).
So far I like Bonsai, I have not had enough practice to give a detailed review, but I think that once I get familiar with where everything is and what does what then I should start loving it as it's got all the bells and whistles.
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The default GUI font doesn't support Cyrillic names. I had to choose a Cyrillic font so see it properly.
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Pete, Rich... check pages 176 through 18? in the manual to see if this helps you.
from page 176:
@unknownuser said:
The default texture mapping assignments can be changed and edited with two tools. The Map Texture tool allows you to assign a different mapping type to an object or its face. The Edit Texture tool is used to interactively adjust the orientation and size of the texture.
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Rocky, Ive seen that and used both those options, they let you orientate, scale and even change the mapping from planar to cylindrical and spherical, what I really need is Parametric which is only an available option for a Bonsai created nurb shape.
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did you try changing the mapping type to UV coordinates from the edit tool?
not sure what you mean by parametric? you want all faces joined when you edit? the method in this .jpg seems to work for that.
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Solo, can you explain the attraction to parametric texture mapping? as you can see i mapped this cylinder parametrically and its fubar so i can't seem to see any advantages.
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Rocky, Parametric mapping is for organic shapes, for tube shapes use the cylindrical mapping.
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ah... the UV coordinate mapping seems to be about the closest. have you tried that?
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Unless the blokes over at SU HQ wake up and smell the coffee they will lose their professional design user core.
(But then do they even care? With the new Bing Augmented Reality looming even more focus may be concentrated on GE support rather than design functionality in Sketchup.) -
Gentlemen,
Sorry for the delay in replying back to your questions and comments. Due to popular demand, we have been extremely busy answering all the emails and phone calls that we are receiving directly (at support@bonzai3d.com, or 614 488-8838). We shall try to keep a closer eye on your discussions so we can help or respond a little more quickly in the future!
(Feel free to contact us directly if you have any urgent needs...)
Solo,
Yes, Parametric mapping is for Nurbs objects in bonzai3d -- so if you created this in bonzai3d, mapping it would be pretty straightforward, but if you create the geometry with SketchUp, then you are pretty limited with what you can do with it.
Also, with UV mapping, you typically assign the desired mapping type first (ie, Flat, Cubic, Spherical...) and then set it to UV. Then when you adjust the geometry, the mapping is locked to the surfaces and will "stretch" accordingly if the shape is adjusted non-uniformly.
Dedmin,
We do not understand exactly what you are saying regarding Cyrillic names. Can you please clarify?
ToxicVoxel,
I am having my coffee right now and it smells pretty good.
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Copy and paste this into Bonzai3D as a name of object, layer or scene:
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Dedmin,
Yes, thanks for clarifying. We have now reproduced this and we will get it corrected. As you note, selecting a Cyrillic font is a way to work around this.
Please let us know if there is anything further.
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@toxicvoxel said:
Unless the blokes over at SU HQ wake up and smell the coffee they will lose their professional design user core.
(But then do they even care? With the new Bing Augmented Reality looming even more focus may be concentrated on GE support rather than design functionality in Sketchup.)It depends at what You are doing. For me the community is very important. For instance, I needed a way to incremental rename a lot of components and asked for a script and I had it in an hour thanks to TIG! For small woodworking, melamine and MDF furniture SketchUp is perfect - there are FredoScale,CutList,Dovetails and bunch of other plugins to do the job!
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@unknownuser said:
It depends at what You are doing. For me the community is very important. For instance, I needed a way to incremental rename a lot of components and asked for a script and I had it in an hour thanks to TIG! For small woodworking, melamine and MDF furniture SketchUp is perfect - there are FredoScale,CutList,Dovetails and bunch of other plugins to do the job!
If you are reliant on community scripts for staying competitive while the world moves on, then good luck mate.
Sketchup will not remain the ground breaking technology it once was.
It's owners have another agenda, - designers are now a secondary consideration.
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@toxicvoxel said:
Sketchup will not remain the ground breaking technology it once was.
I beg to differ. In my opinion the developers of SU are a very hard working bunch who want to produce a good product that helps people get their jobs done.
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@unknownuser said:
If you are reliant on community scripts for staying competitive while the world moves on, then good luck mate.
Yes - it proofs to be the fastest and the cheapest way
And I prefer to move on with the industry and my customers not with the software. I'm working with flat panels and SketchUP has it enough. As I said - it depends. -
@remus said:
I beg to differ. In my opinion the developers of SU are a very hard working bunch who want to produce a good product that helps people get their jobs done.
When you have the pioneering lead in the industry, you have to be pretty stupid to lose it.
What we are beginning to see is the Autodesk syndrome of adding fringe functionality with every release while the core remains the same. Ironically Sketchup is what gave Autodesk their wake-up call. I suspect however that Google is in a far deeper slumber.The fact that other contenders now offer the functionality asked by SU users 3-4 releases ago while there is no sign of it yet in the development roadmap, speaks for itself.
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