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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      I guess you are right, parametric mapping (which I need) only works with Nurbs, the problem is the cushion is modeled with SU and once imported you are limited to what UV mapping you can do.

      I will need to use Vue as it can kinda achieve a result that is okay (not great).

      So far I like Bonsai, I have not had enough practice to give a detailed review, but I think that once I get familiar with where everything is and what does what then I should start loving it as it's got all the bells and whistles.

      http://www.solos-art.com

      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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        dedmin
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        The default GUI font doesn't support Cyrillic names. I had to choose a Cyrillic font so see it properly.

        2010-02-28_102809.jpg

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          xrok1
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          Pete, Rich... check pages 176 through 18? in the manual to see if this helps you.

          from page 176:

          @unknownuser said:

          The default texture mapping assignments can be changed and edited with two tools. The Map Texture tool allows you to assign a different mapping type to an object or its face. The Edit Texture tool is used to interactively adjust the orientation and size of the texture.

          “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

          http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            Rocky, Ive seen that and used both those options, they let you orientate, scale and even change the mapping from planar to cylindrical and spherical, what I really need is Parametric which is only an available option for a Bonsai created nurb shape.

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              xrok1
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              did you try changing the mapping type to UV coordinates from the edit tool?
              not sure what you mean by parametric? you want all faces joined when you edit? the method in this .jpg seems to work for that.


              Capture1.JPG

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                xrok1
                last edited by

                Solo, can you explain the attraction to parametric texture mapping? as you can see i mapped this cylinder parametrically and its fubar so i can't seem to see any advantages.


                Capture1.JPG

                “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                • soloS Offline
                  solo
                  last edited by

                  Rocky, Parametric mapping is for organic shapes, for tube shapes use the cylindrical mapping.

                  http://www.solos-art.com

                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    xrok1
                    last edited by

                    ah... the UV coordinate mapping seems to be about the closest. have you tried that?

                    “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                      toxicvoxel
                      last edited by

                      Unless the blokes over at SU HQ wake up and smell the coffee they will lose their professional design user core.
                      (But then do they even care? With the new Bing Augmented Reality looming even more focus may be concentrated on GE support rather than design functionality in Sketchup.)

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                        bonzai3d support
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                        Gentlemen,

                        Sorry for the delay in replying back to your questions and comments. Due to popular demand, we have been extremely busy answering all the emails and phone calls that we are receiving directly (at support@bonzai3d.com, or 614 488-8838). We shall try to keep a closer eye on your discussions so we can help or respond a little more quickly in the future!

                        (Feel free to contact us directly if you have any urgent needs...)

                        Solo,

                        Yes, Parametric mapping is for Nurbs objects in bonzai3d -- so if you created this in bonzai3d, mapping it would be pretty straightforward, but if you create the geometry with SketchUp, then you are pretty limited with what you can do with it.

                        Also, with UV mapping, you typically assign the desired mapping type first (ie, Flat, Cubic, Spherical...) and then set it to UV. Then when you adjust the geometry, the mapping is locked to the surfaces and will "stretch" accordingly if the shape is adjusted non-uniformly.

                        Dedmin,

                        We do not understand exactly what you are saying regarding Cyrillic names. Can you please clarify?

                        ToxicVoxel,

                        I am having my coffee right now and it smells pretty good. 😄

                        We plan to continue aggressive development to give designers the best possible 3d tools to realize their projects. Please check out our tutorial videos, give out Trial version a chance, and let us know what you think!

                        Tutorial videos: http://www.formz.com/products/bonzai3d/bonzai3dVideo_320.php?startMovie=Interface_320.flv
                        Feature videos: http://www.formz.com/products/bonzai3d/bonzai3dFeatures.html
                        Free Trial: http://www.formz.com/products/bonzai3d/bonzai3dTrial.html

                        All our best!

                        Explore * Design * Deliver
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                        Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                          dedmin
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                          Copy and paste this into Bonzai3D as a name of object, layer or scene:

                          страница
                          
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                            bonzai3d support
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                            Dedmin,

                            Yes, thanks for clarifying. We have now reproduced this and we will get it corrected. As you note, selecting a Cyrillic font is a way to work around this.

                            Please let us know if there is anything further. 😄

                            Explore * Design * Deliver
                            http://www.bonzai3d.com
                            Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                              dedmin
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                              @toxicvoxel said:

                              Unless the blokes over at SU HQ wake up and smell the coffee they will lose their professional design user core.
                              (But then do they even care? With the new Bing Augmented Reality looming even more focus may be concentrated on GE support rather than design functionality in Sketchup.)

                              It depends at what You are doing. For me the community is very important. For instance, I needed a way to incremental rename a lot of components and asked for a script and I had it in an hour thanks to TIG! For small woodworking, melamine and MDF furniture SketchUp is perfect - there are FredoScale,CutList,Dovetails and bunch of other plugins to do the job!

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                                toxicvoxel
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                It depends at what You are doing. For me the community is very important. For instance, I needed a way to incremental rename a lot of components and asked for a script and I had it in an hour thanks to TIG! For small woodworking, melamine and MDF furniture SketchUp is perfect - there are FredoScale,CutList,Dovetails and bunch of other plugins to do the job!

                                If you are reliant on community scripts for staying competitive while the world moves on, then good luck mate.

                                Sketchup will not remain the ground breaking technology it once was.
                                It's owners have another agenda, - designers are now a secondary consideration.
                                I resisted moving to Sketchup when it showed the way forward, - don't want to make that same mistake again.

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                                  remus
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                                  @toxicvoxel said:

                                  Sketchup will not remain the ground breaking technology it once was.

                                  I beg to differ. In my opinion the developers of SU are a very hard working bunch who want to produce a good product that helps people get their jobs done.

                                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                    dedmin
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    If you are reliant on community scripts for staying competitive while the world moves on, then good luck mate.

                                    Yes - it proofs to be the fastest and the cheapest way 😄 And I prefer to move on with the industry and my customers not with the software. I'm working with flat panels and SketchUP has it enough. As I said - it depends.

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                                      toxicvoxel
                                      last edited by

                                      @remus said:

                                      I beg to differ. In my opinion the developers of SU are a very hard working bunch who want to produce a good product that helps people get their jobs done.
                                      When you have the pioneering lead in the industry, you have to be pretty stupid to lose it.
                                      What we are beginning to see is the Autodesk syndrome of adding fringe functionality with every release while the core remains the same. Ironically Sketchup is what gave Autodesk their wake-up call. I suspect however that Google is in a far deeper slumber.

                                      The fact that other contenders now offer the functionality asked by SU users 3-4 releases ago while there is no sign of it yet in the development roadmap, speaks for itself.

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                                        thomthom
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                                        Are we moving onto a different discussion here now?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          toxicvoxel
                                          last edited by

                                          @dedmin said:

                                          Yes - it proofs to be the fastest and the cheapest way 😄 And I prefer to move on with the industry and my customers not with the software. I'm working with flat panels and SketchUP has it enough. As I said - it depends.

                                          As someone who spends a lot of my time automating my design work flow through software development, I speak from experience when I say that 'scripts' eventually make it very very difficult to move on to a better technology platform when it arrives, because the automation functionality cannot easily be replicated on the new system. (Even more-so if you do not do any coding yourself.) While they may make your life easier at the moment they can become so integral to your work that they trap you into a 'legacy' work flow which will be difficult to move away from. This is one of the reasons why I keep my automation code-base development as application- and API-neutral as possible so that I can move easily to another platform if it offers benefits.

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                                            dedmin
                                            last edited by

                                            No worries - scripts are just tools and as far as they don't put any dependable info into my models I can't see Your point! What is the problem to rename my components with a script or manually?

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