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    • TIGT 離線
      TIG Moderator
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      @hsjzyangbin said:

      HI,TIG,is there have some difference between trigulate face .rb and Manifold v1.4?

      If the read the notes in the first post... 'manifold' does triangulate faces at the end, BUT it does so much more - it tidies the shapes to remove faceless edges, remove flaps, remove disconnected geometry, heal holes and very small faces, orient faces and then triangulates, and finally 'reports' on what it's done.

      It is an attempt to automate the making of a 'manifold' surfaced mesh that will work properly when it's exported for use in a 3D printer, and some other 3D apps...

      It's still under development...

      TIG

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      • O 離線
        otb designworks
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        You are the Man, TIG!

        This plug in is a great great idea.

        Cheers, Chuck

        Cheers, Chuck

        OTB Designworks is on Youtube

        6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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        • TIGT 離線
          TIG Moderator
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          Here's v1.5 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691
          Various adjustments on speed, reporting, lingvo etc...
          Still need to sort out 'pretzels' better... 😒

          TIG

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            driven
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            Cheers TIG,
            I was just logging in to say, I've set up one of my Macs, with a fresh instal and only a few basic rubies that I've triple checked are clean. Just to test Manifold. That way any log errors on my system console should be easily spotted, and you posted this, so excellent timing. I'll keep you informed. john

            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
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              driven

              Can you PM that file so I can test it too... ❓
              Don't bother - I made one like it and I see the problem 😒

              TIG

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              • D 離線
                driven
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                inner face left

                Fresh off the press, No error messages in console, had lots of info zipping through, had Pass dialogs, so all seems to be functioning, but all passed have inner faces? john

                EDIT: I did the first with Transparency ON, so just in case it wasn't see the faces I re-did with Trans OFF, but the faces are still inside and the orientation is different from first

                turned transparency off, orientations flip

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                • TIGT 離線
                  TIG Moderator
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                  Here's v1.6 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                  Face making error fixed, 3-edge faces removal improved.
                  Sub-groups/Instances now within Group removed & reported.
                  Error reporting improved.

                  TIG

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                  • D 離線
                    driven
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                    Hi TIG,
                    I think it's working really nicely now, lot faster, plenty of info, it still passes inner faces that don't necessarily break the 1 edge, 2 face rule.
                    There are only two '4-faced' edges in the original drawing and if a BoolTool, VWS, or a manual delete is done first, (as it should be) than manifold does a speedy and detailed correction, orientation and triangulation. I'm wondering if a simple pre-flight check that states, "I'm not doing this-there are inner faces highlighted that you need to remove first" or something less long winded, might not be in order. I'll PM you some other screen shot's as well.

                    acid test

                    Am I the only one testing this????

                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                    • TIGT 離線
                      TIG Moderator
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                      Here's v1.7 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                      It now does a quick initial 'Health-Check' on the group and a dialog reports - it also temporarily shows any probable 'internal faces' in Magenta and faces adjoining probable 'holes' in Cyan etc...
                      If it's a lot of errors you can answer 'No' to not continue and then attempt to fix them manually, before trying again - or answer Yes to continue if there are no problems identified, or answer Yes anyway to try and auto-fix any problems [with a final error report and red/green/.../-.- highlighting in an "error-group"]...
                      🤓

                      TIG

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                      • D 離線
                        driven
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                        TIG....do you sleep???

                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                        • O 離線
                          otb designworks
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                          any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

                          I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

                          Cheers, Chuck

                          Cheers, Chuck

                          OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                          6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                          • TIGT 離線
                            TIG Moderator
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

                            I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

                            Cheers, Chuck

                            I'll add triangulation as a closing option ? 🤓

                            TIG

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                            • O 離線
                              otb designworks
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                              That would be quite useful, for me.

                              Now, how about a plug-in that cuts a model up into beautifully perfect quads? I'd pay cold hard cash for that one, too.

                              Thanks TIG!

                              Cheers, Chuck

                              OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                              6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                              • TIGT 離線
                                TIG Moderator
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                                Here's v1.8 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                                Triangulation is now an option near the end - Answer Yes to do it... 🤓

                                TIG

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                                  driven
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                                  TIG,
                                  slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.

                                  I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  • TIGT 離線
                                    TIG Moderator
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                                    @driven said:

                                    TIG,
                                    slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.
                                    I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                                    Odd - I can't get it to error at all... 😕 Please 'feedback'.............

                                    TIG

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                                    • D 離線
                                      driven
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                                      @tig said:

                                      Odd - I can't get it to error at all... :? Please 'feedback'.............

                                      been trying to up load pics, site is slow, pics to follow

                                      it's on both machines, 1.7 and 1.8

                                      3 groups from Draw Shapes Menu, grouped, manifold_1.7and8, both give a pass
                                      [attachment=0:19dcyp32]<!-- ia0 -->3 groups inside group_1.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:19dcyp32]
                                      Yes to continue....zapppp

                                      Same 3 groups, exploded then regrouped is running as predicted on other mac at the moment, this site is slow from this machine....

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      • D 離線
                                        driven
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                                        the first and last zap the drawing clean, i.e. everything goes

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        • D 離線
                                          driven
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                                          this should upload.jpg
                                          something screwy going on with uploads, sorry it makes thing disjointed

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            I get no problems... but can you PM me that model asap, so that I have exactly the same starting point... 😕

                                            The 'no problems found' report is on any geometry that hasn't already be relegated to 'red'... looks like everything is removed BEFORE we do the health check - it's not a group inside a group is it ?

                                            TIG

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