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    • TIGT Online
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      Here's v1.5 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691
      Various adjustments on speed, reporting, lingvo etc...
      Still need to sort out 'pretzels' better... πŸ˜’

      TIG

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        driven
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        Cheers TIG,
        I was just logging in to say, I've set up one of my Macs, with a fresh instal and only a few basic rubies that I've triple checked are clean. Just to test Manifold. That way any log errors on my system console should be easily spotted, and you posted this, so excellent timing. I'll keep you informed. john

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        • TIGT Online
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          driven

          Can you PM that file so I can test it too... ❓
          Don't bother - I made one like it and I see the problem πŸ˜’

          TIG

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            driven
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            inner face left

            Fresh off the press, No error messages in console, had lots of info zipping through, had Pass dialogs, so all seems to be functioning, but all passed have inner faces? john

            EDIT: I did the first with Transparency ON, so just in case it wasn't see the faces I re-did with Trans OFF, but the faces are still inside and the orientation is different from first

            turned transparency off, orientations flip

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            • TIGT Online
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              Here's v1.6 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

              Face making error fixed, 3-edge faces removal improved.
              Sub-groups/Instances now within Group removed & reported.
              Error reporting improved.

              TIG

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                driven
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                Hi TIG,
                I think it's working really nicely now, lot faster, plenty of info, it still passes inner faces that don't necessarily break the 1 edge, 2 face rule.
                There are only two '4-faced' edges in the original drawing and if a BoolTool, VWS, or a manual delete is done first, (as it should be) than manifold does a speedy and detailed correction, orientation and triangulation. I'm wondering if a simple pre-flight check that states, "I'm not doing this-there are inner faces highlighted that you need to remove first" or something less long winded, might not be in order. I'll PM you some other screen shot's as well.

                acid test

                Am I the only one testing this????

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                • TIGT Online
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                  Here's v1.7 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                  It now does a quick initial 'Health-Check' on the group and a dialog reports - it also temporarily shows any probable 'internal faces' in Magenta and faces adjoining probable 'holes' in Cyan etc...
                  If it's a lot of errors you can answer 'No' to not continue and then attempt to fix them manually, before trying again - or answer Yes to continue if there are no problems identified, or answer Yes anyway to try and auto-fix any problems [with a final error report and red/green/.../-.- highlighting in an "error-group"]...
                  πŸ€“

                  TIG

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                    driven
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                    TIG....do you sleep???

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                      otb designworks
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                      any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

                      I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

                      Cheers, Chuck

                      Cheers, Chuck

                      OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                      6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                      • TIGT Online
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        any chance this can be adjusted to not triangulate all faces? It is very useful for me to be able to clean up a model that I have carefully constructed so that I have consistent quads everywhere, which is what I need for sending into ZBrush for further detail modeling.

                        I know that Cheetah, too, triangulates everything when performing boolean functions, which I also find annoying. It is this, more than anything, that keeps me away from automated solutions for ensuring manifold meshes.

                        Cheers, Chuck

                        I'll add triangulation as a closing option ? πŸ€“

                        TIG

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                          otb designworks
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                          That would be quite useful, for me.

                          Now, how about a plug-in that cuts a model up into beautifully perfect quads? I'd pay cold hard cash for that one, too.

                          Thanks TIG!

                          Cheers, Chuck

                          OTB Designworks is on Youtube

                          6 core nMP, 32 gig RAM, (2) D700 GPU's, dual monitors

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                          • TIGT Online
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                            Here's v1.8 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                            Triangulation is now an option near the end - Answer Yes to do it... πŸ€“

                            TIG

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                              driven
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                              TIG,
                              slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.

                              I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                @driven said:

                                TIG,
                                slight problem, when choosing Yes to continue after an 'initial health check' pass, it zapps everything even unselected groups.... both on badly grouped and clean booled groups, I'll do some more and send pics.
                                I'll see if it still happening in 1.8

                                Odd - I can't get it to error at all... πŸ˜• Please 'feedback'.............

                                TIG

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                                  driven
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                                  @tig said:

                                  Odd - I can't get it to error at all... :? Please 'feedback'.............

                                  been trying to up load pics, site is slow, pics to follow

                                  it's on both machines, 1.7 and 1.8

                                  3 groups from Draw Shapes Menu, grouped, manifold_1.7and8, both give a pass
                                  [attachment=0:19dcyp32]<!-- ia0 -->3 groups inside group_1.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:19dcyp32]
                                  Yes to continue....zapppp

                                  Same 3 groups, exploded then regrouped is running as predicted on other mac at the moment, this site is slow from this machine....

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                                    driven
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                                    the first and last zap the drawing clean, i.e. everything goes

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                                      driven
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                                      this should upload.jpg
                                      something screwy going on with uploads, sorry it makes thing disjointed

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                                      • TIGT Online
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                                        I get no problems... but can you PM me that model asap, so that I have exactly the same starting point... πŸ˜•

                                        The 'no problems found' report is on any geometry that hasn't already be relegated to 'red'... looks like everything is removed BEFORE we do the health check - it's not a group inside a group is it ?

                                        TIG

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                                          driven
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                                          TIG,

                                          they were groups inside a group, and got a pass, (they are all manifold) it only zaps them if you say YES,
                                          the same thing happened after I BoolTool'd all 3 groups into 1 group, initial pass (as it should), but zapped if you choose YES, I only got the RED on that one drawing, I'll re run the first set-up and post the if no red is shown again.

                                          I have just set a Bool'd group run that Passed initial and didn't blitz the drawing when I hit YES

                                          It's on a pair of torus + geodasic sphere bool group, and it is running.

                                          original set ungrouped, but not booled

                                          and others work so smoothly

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • TIGT Online
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                                            Here's v1.9 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=218691#p218691

                                            It now traps for 'No Geometry' inside the Group... πŸ€“

                                            TIG

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