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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      @red_shift said:

      Same thing happens with Loft tool...it runs..then SU goes into a full CPU use and eventually crashes...

      How many profiles/rails/faces are reported in the VCB area ?
      Over ~2000 faces will take a while to format...

      TIG

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      • R Offline
        red_shift
        last edited by

        It's something about the model as a whole...when I copy the rails and profile into a new SU file it works fine..so for now I'll do that and import the result back in...

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          @red_shift said:

          It's something about the model as a whole...when I copy the rails and profile into a new SU file it works fine..so for now I'll do that and import the result back in...

          Geometry sometimes gets muddled in the database.
          Have you trued Model Info > Statistics > Fix Problems ?
          Have you tried grouping a rail and immediately exploding it ?
          Or Edit>Cut'ting a rail and Edit>Paste-in-Place in the same Model?
          Or Edit>Copy a rail and the Erase it and immediately Edit>Paste-in-Place in the same Model?
          Or rail Select and right-click Explode Curve and immediately Welding it again ?
          These sometimes fix the

          TIG

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          • H Offline
            hsjzyangbin
            last edited by

            @tig said:

            EEbyRails won't replace Lathe as the method and results are quite different...

            I chose the semi-circle as a profiles,I finally get the same effects of lathe
            here is test:


            2010-01-01_1131.png

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            • H Offline
              hsjzyangbin
              last edited by

              If 2face +2 path can do it, it would be a pioneering


              2010-01-01_1216.png

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              • H Offline
                hsjzyangbin
                last edited by

                Further to say, I chose as a semi-circular and semi-rectangular as their path, get the desired effect of lathe will not be able to do


                12.png


                2010-01-01_1849.png

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                • D Offline
                  driven
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                  the curtain draws open on a New Year, have a good one

                  learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Extrude edges by rail v2 is better than Soap Skin Bubble! 😉
                    Drawing Mesh is more regular!
                    That will be better for the UV!


                    eer_v2.png

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                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      Works like a charm 👍
                      The funny thing is that curves are not obliged to touch themselve! 💚


                      charm1.png

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        In fact, if the rails / profiles are looped [i.e. they are without an end] then it is better if they don't touch. The profiles are 'moved' to the ends of the rails before making the mesh in any case...
                        Thanks for the demos - if you would like to make a detailed tutorial I won't stop you ! 😉

                        En fait, si les rails / profils sont bouclées [c'est à dire qu'ils sont sans fin], alors il vaut mieux qu'ils ne se touchent pas. Les profils sont «déplacés» à l'extrémité des rails avant de rendre le maillage, en tout cas ... Merci pour les démos - si vous souhaitez faire un tutoriel détaillé je ne vais pas vous arrêter! 😉

                        TIG

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                        • juan974J Offline
                          juan974
                          last edited by

                          THANK YOU SO MUCH
                          It helps me a lot to finish this drawing22338_238938657257_605187257_3142467_6757725_n.jpg, i've give up some months ago ...
                          i bet it will be the most used plugin for me (whit weld.rb) ...
                          yaris pour mimi.pdf

                          juan974 (Réunion island)
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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Seems there is a little bug! (in Round corner or EEbR) 😮
                            (after making a round corner with the Fredo6 plug)
                            (erased faces, welding sides)


                            bug.png


                            bug.skp

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              driven
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Seems there is a little bug!

                              might be related to this
                              I only seem to have problems when I select in this order sequence

                              in all the test I've done on ramps, curtains, TIG's rails and more, I seem to only have a problem with one direction of selection, (other then complete cock-ups)
                              I don't know if it's a clockwise V counterclockwise issue or what, but one way round seems to generate hidden grouped and ungrouped geometry DURING the operation that seem to account for the result, the only rail never effected in the above test is still in red,
                              when the hidden geometry was behind any of the other three i had one of the odd results, and it wasn't there at the start of each run. often there were 3 or 4 sets of hidden bits. A ran this particular drawing in six different drawings 20 or 30 time, the problems were always on the same selection.

                              Only got the points cloud the once?

                              TIG, one thing I would appreciate is an escape key, if you accidently choose 2nd rail twice (instead of the profile) it can generate vast numbers of edges

                              john

                              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              • Bob JamesB Offline
                                Bob James
                                last edited by

                                I have been trying to use this ruby since version 1 to make an aircraft body.

                                I just can't seem to get it to work even with version 2.

                                Profile 2 is just a scaled up version of profile 1.

                                All lines are welded after setting to the matching number of segments.

                                This is just the latest in many tries.

                                Help 😕


                                Edges by Rails 2.jpg

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                                • JClementsJ Offline
                                  JClements
                                  last edited by

                                  Bob, did you try manually exploding each of the rails and profiles first and then re-weld each?

                                  John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @bob james said:

                                    I have been trying to use this ruby since version 1 to make an aircraft body.
                                    I just can't seem to get it to work even with version 2.
                                    Profile 2 is just a scaled up version of profile 1.
                                    All lines are welded after setting to the matching number of segments.
                                    This is just the latest in many tries.
                                    Help 😕

                                    You can try exploding the Curves and immediately re-Welding them back together - sometimes Curves get muddled in the data-base...
                                    OR try splitting the shape into say three pieces with extra intermediate 'profiles' and make say three meshes and join them at the end ?
                                    Like this...EEbyRailsV2_3Bits.png

                                    TIG

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      This is a truly phenomenal tool. Some tries.


                                      Test1.jpg


                                      Test2.jpg


                                      Test3.jpg

                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                      • D Offline
                                        driven
                                        last edited by

                                        @bob james said:

                                        This is just the latest in many tries.

                                        Help :?

                                        Hi Bob, some more things to try...

                                        There are basically 8 ways ( that could give your expected outcome) for any 4 loose profiles (16 if you add surfaces to each, 32 if you don't mind Scaling the length or width back after processing )- Most give either normals or reversed identical copies, some differ and that might be the one you want.

                                        What I've done with stubborn ones is
                                        save them into a new drawing, scale x 10, explode curves, re-Weld, moveCopy of each line out-board by a fraction

                                        you now have 8 line segments, 4 attached + 4 unattached, name or number them, (e.g. L1,L2; T1,T2; R1,R2; B1,B2),
                                        if you really want to be methodical, make 8, 16 or 32 sets of this, side by side, cut and paste in place (just to be sure there clean)
                                        go through all combinations i.e. L1-T1-L2-B2 and name the new group after each combination is used, if you don't want to scale back to size use attached lines as you rails for the first 8 sets

                                        If none work at all you probably have a ruby class, i get some issues if I've used certain tools to make the curves, but closing and reopening the drawing clears those and I also had a problem selectonopen. rb so I binned it and use the space bar.

                                        this plugin is worth getting to know, it's very,very useful ...

                                        john

                                        PS. to speed things up click no all pop-ups, and then you have a proper record of what does what.

                                        learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                                          Bob James
                                          last edited by

                                          @driven said:

                                          PS. to speed things up click no all pop-ups, and then you have a proper record of what does what.

                                          John,

                                          I'm not sure I understand your suggestion, but thank you for it.

                                          Not too sure what "click no all pop-ups" means ❓

                                          Bob

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                                          • Bob JamesB Offline
                                            Bob James
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks, TIG: I may have "broken the code" another way (random luck?)

                                            I lowered the segment count to 20 in the rails. The only problem I can see is the "puckering" at the front end.
                                            The wings and tail surface were also made with EEbR.

                                            The nose piece was made with another great ruby: Soap Skin Bubble.

                                            I made the more complete model some time ago by "brute force": note how much smoother the latest is.

                                            Charly2008: Could be the start of some awesome spaceships 😄


                                            New and old model


                                            !["Puckering at the nose"](/uploads/imported_attachments/lWWo_Puckering.jpg ""Puckering at the nose"")

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