[Plugin] 2D Tools
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@dave r said:
Fillet success for me. Four times, four different radii.
Is it possible there's a conflict with another plugin? Perhaps one of those known to cause problems?Now works for me...
I empty my plugins folder, and I left "2D tools" alone.Now I have to discover what is the plugin who make this problem.
Thanks!
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See my list - I suspect SP...
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Here's v5.3 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
The 2dFillet Tool has been recoded to avoid a rare splat, reported the other day, which occurs if another script in loaded that uses an EntitiesObserver.The new BuildingEdgePlan tools being the 'culprit' that has revealed this issue.
So any tool can innocently use the API's currently ill-mannered EntitiesObserver class [although even the API advises that a ToolsObserver would be preferable solution to avoid crashes, but then they assume crashes when certain operations occur within that class's methods, but this is not correct - crashes occur because the class is loaded, even if it has no active methods whatsoever...].
Its use can thereby cause another script to crash unexpectedly - when it is doing the most innocent unconnected thing, like a doing agroup.erase!on a temporary group shortly after making and copying it [incidentally the 'avoidance fix' is to usegroup.entities.clear!, which then auto-erases that now empty group when themodel.commit_operationcloses the block of code - splat-free].This tool is now fixed but if any other tools display unexpected Bugsplats then please contact their author through the tool's thread, with details of what happens, it might be that other tools innocently fall victim to this too...
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Great tool! Thanks TIG
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Has anyone had trouble with this plugin on their Mac? All others I've tried have worked perfectly but this one does not show in the Tools menu. I don't get any error messages either. It's just not there. Works great on my PC at work. Any suggestions?
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It works fine for me on my Mac. When plugins don't work it is nearly always either due to incorrect installation or lack of read and write permissions for the Plugins folder and the folders inside the Plugins folder. Make sure you have set all permissions for the Plugins folder to "Read and Write" and that you've actually got the files installed correctly. Post a screen shot of your Mac's Plugins folder if you still can't get it.
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What Dave said.
However, before you jump into checking permissions etc...
Does it have a '2D Toolbar' to be activated ?
If so the it has been successfully installed.
I note that you say that it does not appear in your 'Tools' menu.
This is understandable, because it actually appears in the 'Draw' menu, in a submenu called '2D Tools...' - as explained in the tool's notes.
Perhaps it's as simple as you needing to look in the right place... -
Hello!!
This seems like a great tool. However i was having difficulties to extrude / push the 2d area made by the plugin, is it my mistake or it is impossible??
Is there any wasy way to draw on a locked 2d plane and then be able to extrude this area??Thanks in advance
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It could be any number of problems and most likely something you are doing. Without an example, it is difficult to say. If I had to guess, I'd say you didn't have any face to extrude. You could post the SKP file so we'd have some hope of helping you.
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Ok, i send you a blank file with different shapes made by the plugin in this link : https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82810005/2dlinesTest.skp
When i select a shape (directly or selecting one line an then "select all conected") i am unable to push/ pull. Any help is greatly appreciated. My sketchup is v. 8.0.1515.@dave r said:
It could be any number of problems and most likely something you are doing. Without an example, it is difficult to say. If I had to guess, I'd say you didn't have any face to extrude. You could post the SKP file so we'd have some hope of helping you.
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Push/Pull requires faces. You haven't made any.
Drawing shapes with the 2D tools in empty space creates only the edges but no faces. If you want to draw shapes in empty space and get the faces, too, just use the native tools. Or, go back with the native Line tool and trace an edge of your shapes to get the faces to be created as I did in the attached.
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Hi TIG,
Thanks for an AWESOME tool! How would I go about taking an ACAD Patt file and make a JPEG out of it so I could add it to your (line image) folder with the useable JPEGS. I noticed there are 15-20 images that comes with your tool.....We have over 100 "pat" files I wold like to also use.
Thanks,
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@Matte
There should be a subfolder of additional PATs too...
You just need to make a jpg image.
It needs to 'tile' - that is the images need to repeat when placed next to each other in X & Y.
Use an existing PAT file for clues on size and 'tiling'... lines on the right side need to match up with lines on the left side, and lines on the top side need to marry up with lines on the bottom side...
If you make some new ones, then please consider sharing them with everyone else...
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@topaz505 said:
Tig, I have been trying, off and on, for several months to get the hang of applying Styles to Lines. I just don't get it !
1st question: can you apply 2D Line Styles to native SU lines ?
2nd question: I assume that if you set a 2D Line Style that the next (and subsequent) 2D Lines that you draw will be in this style ?
3rd question: can you give the keystrokes to apply a new 2D Line Style to an existing line ?- ancilliary question: can you keep on changing the Style of a line ? (My experience suggests that you can only do this once - but that's probably me.)
A request: would it be possible to create a version with fewer colours and widths ?
My application is more engineering drawing than "art" drawing or architecture. I really need a few bold colours, continuous, dashed and dotted lines and a few thicknesses, (the colour menu especially is just bewildering).
PS I have read the Help file and watched the Video - many times, but the plug-in's charms are avoiding me as yet, but I hope to get there.
Thanks in advance.
You pick/select any Sketchup 'Line' and 'Style' it - it replaces the Line with a colored face group, which is then editable later as it's recognized as a Styled-Line - the original line is kept and moved onto a hidden Layer - it can't be erased as it might be needed by a face.
You assumption is wrong... all 2d-lines are just lines/edges like in SketchUp's native tools. You apply a Style to line AFTER they are created, once Styled they are editable [context-menu]...
If you want to make a shortcut key that's straightforward... Use the Preferences shortcut key and navigate to the 2dtools submenu item...
There are some tricks to using a long list...
If you want to customize the color list then you must edit the code...
I think this was already discussed for the 2dtext tool etc...
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=263662#p263662
To make your own list of colors etc do something like this: use Notepad.exe to edit the file ../Plugins/2DTools/2DlinestyleTool.rb
Assuming you are 'metric'... find the line #158 reading:
widths=["1|2|4|5|8|10|20|25|30|40|50|60|70|75|80|90|100|125|150|175|200|250|300|400|450|500|600|700|750|800|900|1000|1200|1500|1800|2100|2400|2700|3000|3300|3600"]
These are in 'mm', remove the ones you don't want within the " ". It must start and end with a number and each in the list is separated by a '|' symbol.
So for a limited range of 1mm to 100mm you would use something like:
widths=["1|2|5|10|25|50|75|100"]
If you are expecting to work in 'inches' change line #156 instead.
For the colors, find lines #163..#165.
colors=[]; materials.each{|m|colors.push(m.display_name)} colors=colors+(Sketchup::Color.names.sort!) colors.uniq!; colors=colors.join("|")
IF you just want a few colors you can leave the code above unchanged, BUT then add a line immediately afterwards saying this:
colors=["Black|White|Red|Orange|Yellow|Green|Blue|Violet|Brown|Gray"]
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TIG,
just for your information, I get repeated crashes whenever I tried to undo a 2D fillet.
regards.
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@edson said:
TIG,
just for your information, I get repeated crashes whenever I tried to undo a 2D fillet.
regards.
I recall something like this before...http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=431842#p431842 I get no such issues, with Undo working exactly as you might expect... and the many hundreds of other users also have no issues...
This suggests that you have installed a script that is adversely interacting with my 'innocent' tool...
Have you [recently] installed/activated something that is on the SCF Quarantine list, or perhaps one of the new BIM tools that add clumsy observers or mess with native class/methods, or several Render tools loading all at once which can interact badly, or some new fangled tool that I might not have [yet] ?? -
I have none of the quarantined plugins installed and the only rendering plugin I have is podium. I am not sure if BuildEdge Plan qualifies as a BIM extension.
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I think BuildEdge has been causing some issues...
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@edson said:
I have none of the quarantined plugins installed and the only rendering plugin I have is podium. I am not sure if BuildEdge Plan qualifies as a BIM extension.
It does. Indeed the link I provided was about the update of the 2dFillet tool to sidestep the BuildEdge Plan toolset messing with innocent native processes - because they wouldn't respond to fixing their mess I decided to rewrite my tool which now avoids their created issues !So have you downloaded the very latest version of 2dTools [off the first post in this thread] - it contains the updated 2dFillet tool that will live in harmony with BuildEdge Plan [although I can't promise that BuildEdge Plan won't break something else!]
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