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    • brookefoxB 離線
      brookefox
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      Finally getting to know SU's native text tools, 3D included, and have a confirmed sense of appreciation for the functionality your tool set provides.

      (As far as your contemplated line style enhancements, I say progress shouldn't wait on sleeping dogs.., er.., or.. snoozin' sailors or whomever.)

      ~ Brooke

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      • TIGT 離線
        TIG Moderator
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        The text dialog etc would need to become a web-dialog... as at the moment we are limited to the UI.inputbox type which is one line hence the \n work round. It's on a list... 😞

        TIG

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        • TIGT 離線
          TIG Moderator
          最後由 編輯

          At last, here's my updated v4.0...
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
          Main changes are:
          v4.0 20091122 'Debabelizer' added to all tools to ease locale language translation of text/dialogs/prompts/menus etc.
          ES and FR versions of lingvo [translation] files supplied in zip.
          ES version of 2D Tools-Help htm etc supplied in zip.
          2D Tools-Help expanded to cover recent changes and also to explain how to customize Help-htm and lingvo files to your locale; 2D Tools-Help now opens a locale suffixed version if it exists.
          2D Line-Style now offers user defined 'Custom Styles' by defining dots+spaces patterns; glitches whilst working inside groups fixed.
          2D Text miscellaneous glitches fixed.
          2D Face-Maker and 2D Hatching glitches whilst working inside groups fixed.

          The new deBabelizer.rb script must be put into the Plugins folder with the other files/folders, as directed in the instructions. If you use any half-decent zip program to extract all of the files/folders into the Plugins folder then it should put everything in the right place for you...

          Look out for additional [or updated] locale-lingvo files and help-htm files from third-parties: these will go into the ../Plugins/2Dtools/ folder...

          Feedback please...

          TIG

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          • D 離線
            dedmin
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            There is no deBabelizer.rb inside the archive.

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            • TIGT 離線
              TIG Moderator
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              Damn! There is now...***
              Here's a copy of it too deBabelizer.rb
              ***The 8 of you who got the zip which was missing deBabelizer.rb please re-download from the main link or simply add this rb file to the Plugins folder - sorry for the problem - I'm tired... 😕

              TIG

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              • D 離線
                dedmin
                最後由 編輯

                Get some sleep - we need You!! ☀ ☀

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                • juan974J 離線
                  juan974
                  最後由 編輯

                  hello,
                  in help : 2DtoolsHelp.htm, the freehand icon is not the good one
                  i ll try this plugin at work

                  Juan974 (reunion island)

                  juan974 (Réunion island)
                  website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                  • TIGT 離線
                    TIG Moderator
                    最後由 編輯

                    Here's v4.1 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
                    There are minor corrections to the Help htm images etc...

                    TIG

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                    • TIGT 離線
                      TIG Moderator
                      最後由 編輯

                      Here's v4.2 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760
                      No changes to the main 'workings'... Just some minor changes to a few strings in Adjust/LineStyle/Tidyup and their lingvo files that weren't translating properly.

                      TIG

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                      • D 離線
                        dedmin
                        最後由 編輯

                        Thanks, TIG! Seems You slept well ☀ ☀

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                        • juan974J 離線
                          juan974
                          最後由 編輯

                          hello tig,
                          great plugin,

                          • but line weight are locked in inch and i m drawing in millimeter, it s possible to have for example a 0.1 weight of the unit you use?
                          • pattern works fine
                          • drawing on selected plane could be fine too, on rotated plane, or select the plane with 3 points

                          i m thinking to not renew my autocad lt licence.

                          big thank you

                          Juan974 (reunion island)

                          juan974 (Réunion island)
                          website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                          • TIGT 離線
                            TIG Moderator
                            最後由 編輯

                            @juan974 said:

                            hello tig,
                            great plugin,

                            • but line weight are locked in inch and i m drawing in millimeter, it s possible to have for example a 0.1 weight of the unit you use?
                            • pattern works fine
                            • drawing on selected plane could be fine too, on rotated plane, or select the plane with 3 points
                              i m thinking to not renew my autocad lt licence.
                              big thank you
                              Juan974 (reunion island)

                            I took the decision to set the line widths in fractions and multiples of an inch because lines only need 'relative' proportional thicknesses...
                            After all 1/4"=~6mm 1/2"=~12mm 1"=~1", 2"=~50mm 4"=~100mm etc
                            I originally had a set in mm to mimic the old 'Rotring' pens mm thickness 0.13,0.18,0.25,0.35,0.50,0.75,1.0,1.5,2.0,3.0,4.0,6.0,8.0 etc with x10 and x100 versions, but I eventually thought not to do it ...
                            IF there is enough pressure to introduce a 'mm' version I can do it [with a bit of tweaking] - it's easy to find the model's units and set to " or mm...
                            [Yo tomé la decisión de fijar el ancho de las líneas en las fracciones y múltiplos de las pulgadas ['inches'], porque sólo las líneas necesidad de espesores proporcional relativa ...
                            Después de todo 1/4"=~6mm 1/2"=~12mm 1"=~1", 2"=~50mm 4"=~100mm, etc
                            Originalmente tenía una serie en mm para imitar las viejas plumas 'Rotring' en 'mm' 0.13,0.18,0.25,0.35,0.50,0.75,1.0,1.5,2.0,3.0,4.0,6.0,8.0 etc con las versiones x10 y x100, pero finalmente he decidido no hacerlo...
                            Si no hay suficiente presión para introducir una versión de 'mm' puedo hacerlo [con un poco de ajustar] - es fácil encontrar unidades del modelo y se puso a las pulgadas o 'mm'...]

                            TIG

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                            • PixeroP 離線
                              Pixero
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                              Millimeters please. I have no idea on how inches and fractions and multiples work. Using that would be purge guess work for me.

                              Heavy pressure here. 💚

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                              • TIGT 離線
                                TIG Moderator
                                最後由 編輯

                                Here's v4.3 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=185760#p185760

                                The 2D Line-Style Dialog now has Inch OR mm Widths displayed, depending on the Model's Units being Imperial or Metric. The Help htm files have also been updated to suit.

                                TIG

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                                • BepB 離線
                                  Bep
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Damm Tig your fast!!!! 👍 👍 👍

                                  Bep

                                  "History is written by the winners"

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                                  • juan974J 離線
                                    juan974
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    i try last version, for line weight i can t go under 1 mm because of the size of the screen, so i try whit the arrow key, same problem, i ll try on office tomorrow ...

                                    juan974 (Réunion island)
                                    website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                                    • juan974J 離線
                                      juan974
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      hello,
                                      i can't go under 1 mm for line weight ...


                                      Clipboard02.jpg

                                      juan974 (Réunion island)
                                      website : http://sketchucation.com/click.php?url=http://www.tarn.us

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                                      • TIGT 離線
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        Juan974

                                        You can't make a line under 1mm wide because that's the minimum size in metric that's set in the script !
                                        For imperial it's 0.05" == 1.27mm = even worse !!!

                                        A line 1mm wide doesn't display very well at most expected 'scalings' of the view anyway - that's why there are no narrower options... why'd want a line that's so thin it's barely visible as it's often < 1 pixel ?

                                        If you want thinner options then open and edit the 2DLineStyle.rb Ruby file in NotePad and find the two places where there a list of possible metric widths and add yours at the start - say 0.5... so
                                        ["1|2|4|5|8|10|20...
                                        becomes
                                        ["0.5|1|2|4|5|8|10|20...
                                        or whatever thinner line settings you want...
                                        From there on in you'll have lines that are so thin you won't be able see them ! ☀

                                        TIG

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                                        • brookefoxB 離線
                                          brookefox
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Since I haven't found a smarter way, I spent a long while tracing raster contours into a model and found the Z set and line tool to be good friends in that context.

                                          Two items: 1. it would be nice to have a step-back, undo the last segment (only) that could be invoked without exiting the routine, and 2. that curious unwanted mini-segment that keeps inserting itself on occasion while drawing a series of connected 2d lines, perhaps that result of something I'm doing but such is not apparent.

                                          ~ Brooke

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                                          • TIGT 離線
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @brookefox said:

                                            Since I haven't found a smarter way, I spent a long while tracing raster contours into a model and found the Z set and line tool to be good friends in that context.
                                            Two items: 1. it would be nice to have a step-back, undo the last segment (only) that could be invoked without exiting the routine, and 2. that curious unwanted mini-segment that keeps inserting itself on occasion while drawing a series of connected 2d lines, perhaps that result of something I'm doing but such is not apparent.

                                            No need for such manually intensive work?
                                            A quick way to make one "contour line" is to make a very large flat rectangular face, much bigger than the terrain, and then group it.
                                            Move it in the Z so it's at the right height for the contour - perhaps drawing some guide lines to help.
                                            Now edit the face-group and select the face, right-click and choose 'Intersect with Model'.
                                            The intersecting terrain will now make lines on the face.
                                            You can edit the unneeded perimeter of the rectangle and any other faces.
                                            Now you have a group containing the contour lines without having to draw any of it.
                                            Explode the group to add the contour onto the terrain... BUT it might be best if it's kept separate...
                                            It can be even easier - my ContourMaker.rb script does all of this automatically for you, making a set of contours at given heights above the Z=0... all collected inside one group: note that the terrain needs to be a group itself that is pre-selected, to do this...
                                            I take it you are referring to the Freehand Tool in the glitch report - try the Line Tool [Polyline] instead...

                                            TIG

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