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    • PixeroP Offline
      Pixero
      last edited by

      Thanks.
      After first test:
      Polyline tool isnt showing a "guiding line" when drawing like the line tool does. Could it be fixed please?
      None of the tools creates faces. I kind of both like it and not. Could there be some kind of choice for that?
      +1 for a toolbar.

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      • honoluludesktopH Offline
        honoluludesktop
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        TIG, First impression is good. Not sure, but I would consider putting all selections on the "draw menu", rather then a sub menu.

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          See today's update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=180259#p180259 ๐Ÿ˜„

          This new toolset adds a submenu to the 'Draw' Menu >> '2D Tools...' and a '2D Tools' Toolbar
          In it are 8 tools to draw only on the Z=0 plane:
          Line- makes single lines with individually picked start and end points.
          Polyline- makes multiple linked-lines which start from the previous end after the first line is made.
          PolyLineCurve- makes multiple linked-lines as above but these are finally made into a single 'curve'.
          Rectangle- makes a 3 point rectangle.
          Arc- makes an Arc from picked end points and any point on its circumference.
          Circle- makes a Circle from center and any point on its circumference.
          Face Maker - makes a Face - pick a point inside a looped set of edges, a face is added (default color, face up)
          Hatching- makes a Hatched Face - on each first run a dialog offers you a range of CAD hatch patterns (view in 'large icons' to see them best), select one and then pick point(s) inside looped set(s) of edges and face(s) added and hatched with that material: if the face already exists then its material is changed to the current hatch. The selected hatch patterns are added to the Material Browser. Each time this tool is run a new hatch pattern can be selected if desired, if that pattern is already loaded then that one is used.

          The 2D#.rb needs to load before the others to make the sub-menu and toolbar...

          Any feedback or ideas welcomed...

          TIG

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          • D Offline
            DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
            last edited by

            thanks tig.
            A good idea would be, to set the working plane Z

            for example: z= 0mts; z = 3.2mts etc

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              thanks tig.
              A good idea would be, to set the working plane Z

              for example: z= 0mts; z = 3.2mts etc

              I thought of that - in fact I was looking at a reference-plane system which let you choose a plane by picking 3 points - but we are in danger of inventing existing tools here... Perhaps best if we stick on the Z=0 for now ?

              TIG

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              • CadFatherC Offline
                CadFather
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                Great stuff TIG - i can see where this is going already... love the hatch thing..

                Cheers

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Before any of you ask... ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  If you want '2D Text' there's already my TextTag tool which makes a 're-editable' component containing 2D text in any font/size/color/etc... http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/textTag.rb

                  It's not in the set as it's also very useful in the '3D world', as are many other tools that will work in either - like 'fillet' etc...

                  TIG

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                  • PixeroP Offline
                    Pixero
                    last edited by

                    Yes! Already much better. ๐Ÿ˜
                    The only things I can think of now would be if the arc, circle and rectangle tools could show the form beeing drawn like the standard tools does.
                    And maybe a line weight tool for different thickness of lines.

                    I just realised my Polyline curve tool doesnt create one curve. It separates them just as the polyline tool does. Bug?

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @pixero said:

                      Yes! Already much better. ๐Ÿ˜
                      The only things I can think of now would be if the arc, circle and rectangle tools could show the form being drawn like the standard tools does.
                      And maybe a line weight tool for different thickness of lines.

                      I would if I could, but I've only been looking at this since yesterday ! I can't see how to make the arc/circle forms as you draw - I'll think about it ? ๐Ÿ’ญ
                      The rectangle tool is not like the standard one as it's 3-point - giving you greater flexibility on its rotation on the 2D plane - it does show what it's doing though ?
                      'Line-weights' are only possible by faking them with 'grouped-lines' drawn very close to each other, or perhaps better a thin face black painted, with its edges hidden ?

                      If we want CAD use a CAD program - this is a semi-academic exercise in adding some 2D tools to Sketchup... ๐Ÿค“

                      TIG

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                      • PixeroP Offline
                        Pixero
                        last edited by

                        It very good already.
                        No harm in wishing, ehe?

                        What about the Polyline curve tool?
                        Is it just me or is there a bug?

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @pixero said:

                          It very good already.
                          No harm in wishing, ehe?
                          What about the Polyline curve tool?
                          Is it just me or is there a bug?

                          What sort of bug ?

                          TIG

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                          • PixeroP Offline
                            Pixero
                            last edited by

                            If I make a open form the lines are separated but if I draw a closed form they are turned into one.
                            How are we meant to exit the tool? I clicked esc.

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                            • kenK Offline
                              ken
                              last edited by

                              TIG

                              Thanks. The hatching is a win for me.

                              Feedback. I know that when you think of 2d drawing, the Z axis is at a zero elevation. However, at least on my machine, the orbit tool works better when the drawing is done using the Front view. I never can get the orbit tool to behave to my request in the Top View. And why would I need the use of the orbit tool when doing 2d drawing. Well, after using Sketchup for the last couple of years, I try an orbit everything, even Word and Xcel documents. Therefore, it is a learned response. However, I do feel I get more info from the drawing when I orbit.

                              Again thanks for the tools.

                              Ken

                              Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                              • honoluludesktopH Offline
                                honoluludesktop
                                last edited by

                                TIG, Wow, having 2D icons make putting the commands directly on the "draw" menu for quick access unnecessary. Fantastic.

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                                • EarthMoverE Offline
                                  EarthMover
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice update TIG! Can you tell me how to get the polyline curve to work? Is there a way to tell the script you are finished drawing the segments so it can convert them to a "curve"?

                                  3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                  Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                  Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @pixero said:

                                    If I make a open form the lines are separated but if I draw a closed form they are turned into one.
                                    How are we meant to exit the tool? I clicked esc.

                                    I'll look at it...

                                    TIG

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      The PolylineCurve works much as the PolylIne Tool - you click on a line end twice or the start point of the first line to say you are done. The difference is that it then converts the points to a Curve at the end and any loose edges should be erased - obviously it sounds like it's not doing that ! I'll investigate... When I am more awake tomorrow โ˜€

                                      TIG

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                                      • bagateloB Offline
                                        bagatelo
                                        last edited by

                                        Would it be possible a tool that draw rectangles with round corner?

                                        I thank your efforts in any way.

                                        While the cat's away, the mice will play

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                                        • D Offline
                                          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                          last edited by

                                          Tig, I have been some errors running the plugins
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UZUfNm8STk

                                          suggestion:
                                          You can add
                                          - Double Line Tool?
                                          - Ellipse Tool (defined by its 2diameters)?

                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_t_gMqP8lM
                                          - Polygon Tool of xsides (defining the length of one side)?
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYniLhupg1Q

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Today's update available here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=180259#p180259

                                            Main changes are:

                                            Return/Enter now ends the Polyline and PolylineCurve Tools and draws geometry.
                                            Esc during the Tool now undoes the last Polyline and PolylineCurve pieces draw up to then.
                                            PolyLineCurve Tool now draws both looped and open-ended curves, BUT if they branch - e.g. you draw a loop back onto one of the set's earlier edges mid-point - then it'll make the best curve it can out of what it has, and the rest will stay as loose lines.
                                            Default number of segments for Arc and Circle now = 18, this can be set different for an Arc and a Circle, AND any changed values a remembered during that session in that model.
                                            Arc now draws a ghost-arc as you stretch it out.
                                            Circle now draws a ghost-circle as you stretch it out.

                                            Hopefully this will address some of the errors reported... ๐Ÿ˜’

                                            On the other requests:

                                            A Rectangle with Rounded Corners

                                            • I'd use the Rectangle Tool and then use a 'fillet' or 'rounded-corners' tool to round its corners (there are several available - I use Ktools's 'Make-L'tool); or you could use the main Arc tool and draw tangential arcs at the corners - you can use Entity-Info to change its radius etc - then erase the unwanted bits ?
                                              I don't know of an tool to do it right off. I've no plans to make one - sorry...

                                            A Double-Line Tool

                                            • Didier Bur has already made one - it works fine in 2D too - dline.zip on http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/em_geo_page.htm

                                            An Ellipse Tool

                                            • Didier Bur has already made one - it works fine in 2D too - Ellipse.zip on http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/en_geo_page.htm

                                            A Polygon Tool with set side dimension.

                                            • You could make a Polygon using the main Polygon tool of the 2D Circle tool with required number of edges/segments set, but that has a given radius rather than a side length. You also need to rotate it to the orientation angle you want. To make it a given side length draw a Polygon and then immediately group it. Edit that group and use the Tapemeasure tool and pick two vertices of an edge; now type in the size you want as units (e.g. 500mm) and it'll ask you if you want to scale everything, say 'Yes' - remember that this scaling is limited to the current active_entities, so don't panic - the polygon inside the group will now have its edges at the desired length: exit the group and explode it... I have a Polygon.side=1234 method that I might publish one day...

                                            Any other ideas ? โ“

                                            TIG

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