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    • sfto1S Offline
      sfto1
      last edited by

      I just installed the latest version of Section Cut Face and the Glue option is not working. I selected yes in the glue option yet when I move the section plane the cut face disappears and it looks like an ordinary section plane view.

      What am I doing wrong?

      P.S.
      SU 8pro
      This is on my laptop with limited graphics.
      Installed thru plugin store.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        @sfto1

        Can you post a simple SKP where it isn't working with three section-planes, one glued, one glued-on-demand and the other not glued at all [there are three options].

        We can then test it...

        TIG

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        • sfto1S Offline
          sfto1
          last edited by

          TIG

          This is the file I was practicing on. It is nothing special.

          Thanks in advance for your interest in helping.

          SFTO1


          test skip.skp

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Are you sure you have version 3.8 installed ?
            Its Extension's description will show it...

            Assuming you have it... then it should work.

            I ran you test SKP - it worked fine.
            There was no section-plane to test, but I added a new one on the end where you have left an 'orphaned' sectioncutface-group [which I deleted].
            Because you had deleted the original plane I can't check its attributes etc 😒

            I tested the SKP in v8 AND v2013 and it worked fine every time with both Glue and Glue-on-demand.

            When you change a model - say by moving the section-plane or some geometry - then the Glued sectioncutface-group is auto-regenerated to suit the new circumstances, but only when you go on to the next tool, so using 'move' on the plane leaves the cut-group behind momentarily until your 'move' tool becomes something else - say 'select'. To recreate the group 'dynamically' for every tool you might use is too much of an overhead on the processing. Also remember that if your cut moves out of the geometry then no cut will be visible, as it's not made...

            TIG

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            • sfto1S Offline
              sfto1
              last edited by

              I do have v3.8 and with your helpful explanation, I now realize that the cut face does not dynamically follow the section cut. It does in fact create the "glued" face when I switch to a different tool. I was not switching to a different tool.

              Thanks for such a creative and useful tool.

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              • Z Offline
                z3325206
                last edited by

                Hi Tig,

                I have successfully load the section cut face .rzb plugin into my sku8 via changed the file extension from .rzb to .zip then unzip it, it works fine with my sku8 pro.

                Come to the sketch up vray render stage, i have create a section plane as image 1 shows,
                but every time I render it, it still render it as a whole model as image 2 shows. The section cut face disappeared.

                http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/frankyzhou/1_zpsae9f08fb.jpg?t=1381736127

                Image1

                http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s541/frankyzhou/2_zpsf867190d.jpg

                Image2

                how can I fix this problem?

                Thank you for ur patience to answer my question.

                Best regard,
                Frank

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                • cottyC Offline
                  cotty
                  last edited by

                  I think the renderer must support section cuts and it isn't a problem of the plugin. If so, you can save a copy of your model and use the "Slice Model at Section" option from Zorro2 (?) to delete the rest of the model for the render.

                  my SketchUp gallery

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Unless your renderer supports section-cuts [unlikely for many of them] you must, as Cotty says, work on a copy of your model and slice it at the section-plane using Zorro2, then any section-cut-face you have added will show at that cut. Now it will render as expected.

                    I believe that the newest version of SUPodium has a tool to do something very much like this for you, automatically saving the model as a copy and then running zorro-like and section-cut-face-like operations on the selected section-plane in the copy...

                    TIG

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      Indigo Renderer supports section cuts directly (see here).

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                      • Z Offline
                        z3325206
                        last edited by

                        @cotty said:

                        I think the renderer must support section cuts and it isn't a problem of the plugin. If so, you can save a copy of your model and use the "Slice Model at Section" option from Zorro2 (?) to delete the rest of the model for the render.

                        Thank you Cotty and Tig, It works fine with zorro2 in sku8.

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                        • J Offline
                          JAD JM
                          last edited by

                          Hi TIG, Does this plugin work for Mac?

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            @jad jm said:

                            Hi TIG, Does this plugin work for Mac?

                            It works just fine on Mac.

                            Etaoin Shrdlu

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                            • danchoD Offline
                              dancho
                              last edited by

                              Hi Tig,
                              thanks for a recent help. Now I have one interesting problem.
                              After reinstalling a sketchup 2013, put on several plugins only.
                              SketchuUV ; AdditionalPluginFolder ; Sketchucation loader and your plugin SectionCut Face.

                              Using this plugin in small scene cca 30Mb interior I have strange delay when I need to
                              orbit a scene. My sketchup slow down on a strange way. After that I was trying with other files 20-120Mb sizes but the same.
                              After removing a plugin everything is fine.
                              Do you know some solution for this?

                              Sketchup 2013, Windows 7 Home P. x64,

                              Thanks
                              Daniel

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                On large models gluing a section-cut to a section-plane can slow things down noticeably, because at each change to the model it has to decide if the section-cut is modified by that...
                                Therefore using the alternative glue-on-demand mode is recommend, or even no-gluing_remake if the section-plane or model being cut by it changes...

                                TIG

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                                • atelierpaarA Offline
                                  atelierpaar
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello Tig,
                                  thanks for this great plugin. Its a tremendous advantage to glue the section plane. I noticed so, that its not possible to change colors or textures once they are applied. That´s to bad, since I usually differentiate my sections. Is there a workaround ?
                                  anyway`s, congratulation one more time
                                  Uli

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    You don't need a work around. You need to change Lock from Yes to No before you make the face.
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                                    Or unlock the locked group so you can open it for editing.

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                                    • cottyC Offline
                                      cotty
                                      last edited by

                                      If it is glued, you cannot change the color, even if it's not locked.

                                      my SketchUp gallery

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          If a SectionCutFace is not 'glued', then you can manually edit its properties, provide you 'unlock' it first.
                                          If a SectionCutFace is set to be 'glued' [or 'glue-on-demand'] you specify its fixed properties when it is created, including its color/material [chosen from a list of basic colors and any existing materials at that time] then later on, whenever it changes it will regenerate and reuse the color/material that was initially assigned to it [all of its settings are remembered as special 'attributes']. So you can't change its material manually by painting the faces in an edit - the act of painting and/or the exit from the edit is regarded as a valid change and it is regenerated using its stored attributes - including its saved color/material. BUT provided that a material is loaded into the model, then you can easily 'remake' the glued SectionCutFace by selecting the same section-plane again and then adding a SectionCutFace choosing another listed color/material [and also whatever other settings you wish to have***]. Each section-plane can only have ONE SectionCutFace, so this new SectionCutFace supersedes the previous one, and so it will now keep its new material etc as specified...
                                          ***This resetting also applies to all its properties, like hidden edges etc...

                                          TIG

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's v3.9 http://sketchucation.com/resources/pluginstore?pln=SectionCutFace
                                            The removal of 'inner hole' faces has been improved again 😄

                                            TIG

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