The VUE thread

thomthom · 14 May 2009, 11:20

I seem to be completely unable to import SU6 files. But SU5 seems to work. With simple test scenes it works fine, but when I try to import a real project I find many things misplaced upon import. Any clue to how to circumvent this?

thomthom · 14 May 2009, 11:23

Does VUE not handle nested components/groups?

solo · 14 May 2009, 11:25

It does, all my SU models have nested groups and components and it works great with Vue, I however export as .3ds and open up in Vue, I do not use the .skp import.

thomthom · 14 May 2009, 11:42

.3ds worked more reliably.

solo · 14 May 2009, 11:49

Make sure to UN-check stand alone edges.

thomthom · 14 May 2009, 12:15

Can VUE generate terrain from DWG files?

thomthom · 14 May 2009, 13:10

What .3ds export settings do you use?

solo · 14 May 2009, 14:29

TT

I'm not sure about .dwg however it can with .dxf and .dem.

regarding my 3ds export:

(my model units in SU are inches)

solo · 14 May 2009, 19:59

Another fast and dirty test, I wanted to make sure the main blades and rotor blades spin at different speeds and on their own axis yet linked to helicopters movements.

[flash=600,400:3sylqzrl]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/ZpoaWdy5Knw[/flash:3sylqzrl]

This is the basic SU model from 3DWH.

craftycurate · 15 May 2009, 13:08

Hi Folks ...

I'm a fairly long time Vue user, since v5, and I do almost all of my rendering in Vue. I've also been using Sketchup (SU) for quite a while, and most of the architectural elements in my scenes are built and textured in Sketchup (to create shading domains), imported into Vue as SKP files, and retextured inside Vue.

Some examples on my Renderosity gallery - http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?user_id=434993.

I am having a few issues importing SU into Vue Infinite v7.4 which has just added SU7 support, and sometimes simple models don't import for reasons I don't understand. I use the free version of SU, so the other option is OBJ export.

Also, heavily nested groups don't always import well - sometimes objects end up in odd locations, but if everything is exploded first it isn't a problem usually.

Thanks
Richard

solo · 15 May 2009, 14:19

Are you running a 64 bit system? as the new 7.4 has great import support for SU7 now on a 32 bit system and not yet supported on 64bit.

Richard out of habit I only use .3ds export which you cannot do due to your SU version. I posted a ticket with E-on as I had a few 'sidebyside' issues with the new update so until that's resolved I'm still using 7.21.

ark · 15 May 2009, 14:25

How is the renderspeed i VUE compared to e.g. V-ray or Modo renderengine?
It seems that VUE can make some nice renders!

solo · 15 May 2009, 14:37

It's difficult to compare them as Vue's advantage is atmospheres and procedural terrains that generally are cumbersome for any render engine, but pretty damn fast with Vue.
Like all render engines speed is also relative to your machine and Vue is optimal on a 64 bit machine with a good GPU and as many cores and ram as possible.

Again one can set up and tweak render settings in Modo and Vray to an extent that they give fantastic results at crippling render times and with Vue it's the same, just play around with your atmosphere settings and you will notice how speeds can change.
So I'd say Vue and Vray are pretty much similar as far as render speeds go (I cannot talk about Modo as I know nothing of it's render speeds) and really contingent on your render settings.

craftycurate · 15 May 2009, 14:38

@solo said:

Are you running a 64 bit system? as the new 7.4 has great import support for SU7 now on a 32 bit system and not yet supported on 64bit.

Richard out of habit I only use .3ds export which you cannot do due to your SU version. I posted a ticket with E-on as I had a few 'sidebyside' issues with the new update so until that's resolved I'm still using 7.21.

I'm using 32-bit.

I was able to import SKPs into 7.4 when exporting as SUv6 models.

Gaieus · 16 Jun 2009, 08:39

The Vue 3D Environment Competition 2009 may be of some interest. Great prizes.

archigrafix · 1 Jul 2009, 08:37

SOLo
By the passed I bought VUE3.1 and vue4...but never managed to use them in professionnal conditions...
Today attracted by what I heard about VUE7 I decided to give it a new try:
Just downloaded: VUE7 infinite 7.5PLE
of course first thing I did..? importing a SU model!
(...SKP is an import option nice. Before trying I read all the tread and was already a little bit worry about some strange behaviour in this import process...)
first attempt, with a SU6 failed...its beginning nicely! then tried SU7, SU5, a very simple SU6model etc...
nothing works...what a shame to sell fonctions that do not work at all...Of course its PLE but thats no excuse in my point of view..!
However I kept cool and tried with a 3ds file...then miracle all works fine. Only cameras are not imported
I then begin to play with materials and all the stuff...boom badaboom!!!
nice bug splat!
I'll give it another try lately, perhaps I get no chance with vue... hum!
For now I cant get out of my mind that there are real professionnal softwares you can rely on in real professionnal conditions and others that are a little...young!

Chris Fullmer · 1 Jul 2009, 09:16

Post you .skp model here. Maybe there is something wrong with it?

Chris

archigrafix · 2 Jul 2009, 14:38

thanx chris but its not a problem with one specific file tried with many skp... no way
So now I use 3DS... have to say the truth it works real fine. All materials textures etc are at the right place. the only missing thing is camera position. Perhaps someone can tell if theres a way to get those SU camera positions?

Chris Fullmer · 2 Jul 2009, 22:48

You are not getting the camera positions in 3dsmax? What file format?

solo · 3 Jul 2009, 22:27

archigrafix, I do not use the Vue importers, they are buggy, in fact nearly every 3rd party render app I've used seems to have crappy importers.
I use .3ds from SU, works great.