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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      That's a new Duh! moment for me!!

      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        Is it? ๐Ÿ˜„

        Interesting although admittedly I also have duh moments on trivia sometimes.

        Note however that is there is a soften edge (say a diagonal) in the face, the follow me will not go completely around - not even when simply double clicking. In this case Pilou's "original" method: Double clicking then deselecting the inner (sur)face will do the job though.

        So basically it only woks with single faces. Not even with coplanar but subdivided faces.

        Gai...

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        • jgbJ Offline
          jgb
          last edited by

          Another thing with Follow-Me I discovered a while back (and reported) is when you are defining a path that has curves, place the template face somewhere on a straight portion of any line segment, NOT at an endpoint. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

          If follow-me starts on an endpoint, the face template follows one of the subtended angles and royally screws up at the end, with an end face out of alignment. This is especially a major factor with closed loops. ๐Ÿ‘Ž

          However, if started on a straight section, it will end perpendicular to the last line of the path, and if the path is a closed loop, it will join properly. ๐Ÿ‘


          jgb

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Useful to know! ๐Ÿ‘

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • broomstickB Offline
              broomstick
              last edited by

              I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

              It's a useful way to orbit/pan without using two hands ๐Ÿ˜„

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Mini Doh ๐Ÿ˜ณ (due forgotten function) ๐Ÿ˜’

                • Alt gives you the possibility to Move a segment escaping at the X Y plan ๐Ÿ˜‰

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @broomstick said:

                  I've seen this pointed out before, but I just discovered that while orbiting with the middle mouse pressed, if you press the left button, orbit becomes pan.

                  !!! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ OMF-DUH!!!

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                    Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
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                      @thomthom said:

                      A bit awkward though, as I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button, so I need to shift to my middle finger to free up my index for the left mouse button. ...which it was the right button that did that...

                      Ditto. I have known this "feature" but could never adapt myself to it.

                      Gai...

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                        That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                        So more speedy scolling! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                        For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! โ˜€
                        So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! ๐Ÿ˜„
                        Try it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • jgbJ Offline
                          jgb
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                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I use my index finger usually to press the middle mouse button

                          That is very curious, because with the medium you can rotate many more the Mouse wheel than with index! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
                          So more speedy scolling! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                          For the simple reason that the Medium is biggest than the index! โ˜€
                          So the medium is always on the whell, so click it is a formality! ๐Ÿ˜„
                          Try it! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          I have always used my mid finger on the wheel, with index on the left button. I also move my mid to the right button when needed as the ring finger has less control (which is why it is the "ring" finger ๐Ÿ˜† ).

                          It shouldn't take long to adjust to that finger position.

                          And now I know why my "orbiting" suddenly goes into "panning" when my index finger twitches downward sometimes. Now that I know, I can exploit that feature. Thank you Broomstick.

                          And Pilou, I fail to see what you mean with Move+Alt. โ“ Could you please explain a bit more?


                          jgb

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                          • Jean LemireJ Offline
                            Jean Lemire
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                            Hi Pilou, hi folks.

                            Yes, pressing the ALT key enables Autofold.

                            Just ideas.

                            Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                            • pilouP Offline
                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Is that more clear ? ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                              Without Alt Z axis is locked!
                              You can make some prisms or no coplanar faces with Move + Alt! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                              The Z axis become free with Move + Alt ๐Ÿ˜„

                              Movetool.jpg

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                And here is the autofold description:
                                http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                Gai...

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  I wish there was an option to make SketchUp Smooth+Soft auto-folded edges.

                                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    I've been harping on this for years now but I don't think anyone ever tries it.. oh well

                                    orbit with a thumb button (if your mouse has one).. not only is it more comfortable, it also gets rid of the double duty zoom/orbit mmb... AND- makes panning with the LMB much easier.

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Thumb buttons are Copy, Paste ...

                                      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jgbJ Offline
                                        jgb
                                        last edited by

                                        @gaieus said:

                                        And here is the autofold description:
                                        http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                        Read it, tried it and I still don't see any advantage. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                        If I want to go Z (blue) I press the UP arrow and it seems to do the same as the autofold, but with exact axis control. ๐Ÿ‘

                                        It seems to me that autofold may hold an advantage if we had true 3D screens, but mine is standard 2D, and I cannot control, with any precision, where my object is moving to.


                                        jgb

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                                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                          jeff hammond
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                                          @jgb said:

                                          @gaieus said:

                                          And here is the autofold description:
                                          http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=94865

                                          Read it, tried it and I still don't see any advantage. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                          If I want to go Z (blue) I press the UP arrow and it seems to do the same as the autofold, but with exact axis control. ๐Ÿ‘

                                          It seems to me that autofold may hold an advantage if we had true 3D screens, but mine is standard 2D, and I cannot control, with any precision, where my object is moving to.

                                          using the arrow key is the same thing.. you're giving sketchup permission to break a plane(s) into multiple planes.. that's what autofolding means (in sketchup speak).. [and moving along the Z isn't always what's wanted.. hence the cmmd/alt key]

                                          now if only follow-me had an autofold option.. we'd then be able to, say, extrude around a helix without the twisting.. (notice if you try that now, sketchup prefers to keep planes in tact as opposed to folding them which is required for a non-twisting extrusion)

                                          dotdotdot

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            That's where FollowMeAndKeep steps in... No twisting !
                                            Also 'EEbyLathe' sorts the FollowMe around and Arc issues too...

                                            TIG

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