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    • S 離線
      SketchUpNoobie
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      @ecuadorian said:

      Today I discovered that I can drag-and-drop images straight from Firefox into the SketchUp viewport. 😲

      Wow! Just tried it with your avatar and it works!!! 😄

      --

      SketchUpNoobie: the complete noob in all things SketchUp.

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      • thomthomT 離線
        thomthom
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        @unknownuser said:

        @ecuadorian said:

        Today I discovered that I can drag-and-drop images straight from Firefox into the SketchUp viewport. 😲

        Wow! Just tried it with your avatar and it works!!! 😄

        I had and odd duh moment for that - because I just did it one time, and I surprised myself afterwards when I realised it worked. I assumed it didn't - so I have no idea why I even tried.

        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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        • pilouP 離線
          pilou
          最後由 編輯

          But the inverse don't work 😞 😉

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • K 離線
            KXI System
            最後由 編輯

            just figured out how to adjust a textured face.

            Right click ➡ texture
            on textured face. Actually I knew about it but just forgot.

            Getting the perfect sig is hard...

            Google it!

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            • S 離線
              SketchUpNoobie
              最後由 編輯

              @arklandesign said:

              hehe .....This is a funny and informative thread at the same time...

              I have one... discovered by mistake yesterday.
              If one is in a complicated model and want to focus attention to a particular part of the model, one can double click on the scroll wheel at the point one is interested in and that will centre that point in the middle of the screen....making orbiting even easier.

              Haha! Thanks! Funny how stupid some people are. Surely not me though! 😳

              --

              SketchUpNoobie: the complete noob in all things SketchUp.

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              • D 離線
                danbig
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                here's one:

                what's the difference between the "soften" and "hide" commands for lines?

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                • Rich O BrienR 線上
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  最後由 編輯

                  Left is Hidden, right is softened...

                  Soften Hide FaceOff.jpg

                  and SHIFT+ = Hide

                  and CTRL+ = Soften

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                  • D 離線
                    danbig
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    Left is Hidden, right is softened...

                    Other than appearance, is there a difference in how the two behave?

                    (I'm slow to Doh! on this one 😕)

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                    • Rich O BrienR 線上
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                      最後由 編輯

                      In this example the cylinder with the HIDDEN lines, it's faces are still individually manipulated. Where as SOFTENED results one continuous face. SU playing games with the mind

                      Difference FaceOff.jpg

                      To create the cylinder without softened edges, just draw a circle, then right click it and Explode Curve followed by . Now you can hide edges and see for yourself!

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                      • D 離線
                        danbig
                        最後由 編輯

                        Hmm. Strange. I'm able to create hidden and soft lines (I use hidden lines regularly).

                        But if I create two cylinders, just as you have, the hidden line version behaves exactly the same as the soft lines version (sketchup displays the sides as one big face, unless I display "hidden lines" then I can select each face individually).

                        Also, my hidden line cylinder looks identical to the soft line cylinder.

                        Can anyone comment on the intent behind creating these two different line styles? What is the "suggested" or intended use for each?

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                        • Rich O BrienR 線上
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          最後由 編輯

                          Hi DanBIG,

                          Draw two circles and the right click as mentioned above to 'Explode Curve'

                          Explode Curve.jpg

                          Now both circles, because we have returned the circle to individual segments, instead of one polyline, SU creates a cylinder with individual faces...

                          Hide Lines.jpg

                          Hiding these faces do not merge the faces into one another again, it just hides the Edges(Vertices). Thus still enabling you to manipulate each face...

                          Difference.jpg

                          @unknownuser said:

                          What is the "suggested" or intended use for each?

                          SU, when it creates CURVES(POLYLINES), allows you to simulate smoothness. As SU natively uses only straight lines to create any curve, having the ability to simulate smoothness/roundness is necessary. When you select View>Hidden Geometry you are effectively asking SU to show both HIDDEN and SOFTENED lines.

                          To answer your question, which looks nicer?

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                          • mitcorbM 離線
                            mitcorb
                            最後由 編輯

                            following up
                            doesn't it also affect how textures or materials are applied?

                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                            • GaieusG 離線
                              Gaieus
                              最後由 編輯

                              Regarding textures; it does not really control how they are applied but how you can apply them. I.e. you cannot manipulate texture mapping (positioning, projection etc) on curved surfaces only on singular face(t)s. In order to access these on curved surfaces and be able to do anything, you need to show hidden geometry first.

                              Gai...

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                              • GaieusG 離線
                                Gaieus
                                最後由 編輯

                                I have never noticed this...
                                😲
                                And we have a "search this topic" box as well!
                                😮
                                And I am an admin here for about three years now?
                                😒 😳 😕


                                SearchThisForum.png

                                Gai...

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                                • mitcorbM 離線
                                  mitcorb
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @Gaieus:
                                  No one is immune. 😉
                                  I will probably be next.

                                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                  • thomthomT 離線
                                    thomthom
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    😆

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • pilouP 離線
                                      pilou
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Administrator is at first level
                                      Moderators second level
                                      Surfers users are in the hold 😄
                                      Mine Doh of the day 😒
                                      One research realised then the second one ... 😳


                                      doh.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • genma saotomeG 離線
                                        genma saotome
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        @danbig said:

                                        @xrok1 said:

                                        i think the biggest duh moment of all that everbody (hopfully) goes through is realizing that it matters which way the faces are oriented.

                                        90% of the 3dwarehouse posters still havn't had that duh moment. 😆

                                        ...ok, I'd better ask, because my mind is blank after reading this.

                                        What do you mean, "it matters which way the faces are oriented"?

                                        This is either something I know, in different terms, or something I don't know at all.

                                        If you export SU models to other software that undestands cad models the "light colored" face is regarded as the surface normal -- an odd phase in itself -- but what that means is that face will change it's appearance per the intensity of the light plus angle of the surface normal relative to the light source whereas the reverse face -- the "dark one" -- does nothing. IOW, any kind of add'l rendering depends upon setting face orientation correctly.

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                                        • A 離線
                                          arklandesign
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          I hardly ever mess with the axes settings, but have finally had a need to start using this and often found I would inadvertently set the blue axes downwards rather than up.

                                          Was watching a tutorial this morning, and found that if one triple clicks (after setting the red axis) it is automatically done correctly for you..... It was a Duhh !!! moment for me.

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                                          • thomthomT 離線
                                            thomthom
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            When you use the Rectangle tool and make the first click on an edge that is connected to a face, the rectangle tool will align to the edge. 😲 😮 😳

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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