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    • R Offline
      remus
      last edited by

      😒 your making me jealous

      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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      • plot-parisP Offline
        plot-paris
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        I simplified the windows component a bit (reduced it from 16 to 5 faces) and tried a render again. now it worked perfectly fine with only 200 Mb Ram used by Indigo.

        I even was able to place another building into the scene (which by itself is 20 times bigger in file size than the whole city).
        granted, this twisted shape may look a bit alien in the otherwise orthogonal city. understand it as a symbol for SketchUp's unique and inovative workflow amidst loads of other applications with their narrow minded interfaces πŸ˜‰

        http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4910/bigcityjj4.jpg

        (in the model are 1910 buildings plus the twisted one)

        this city is very basic: 5 different building heights (all based on the same storey component), assembled in 10 different block types.
        just imagine, what wonderful and huge cities you can render if you put in a bit more time and effort to create variations...

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        • K Offline
          Kenny
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          I tried the original model and it started loading but I got a run time error. I've got a pretty good spec too with 4GB Ram and a Core 2 duo E6850 processor.

          Kenny

          http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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            remus
            last edited by

            I think a run time error is when it runs out of memory, not sure what would cause it though, if jakob can render it on his machine πŸ˜‰

            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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              plot-paris
              last edited by

              dear Kenny, thanks for trying out my model. I would very much like to see, what you can get out of it (for your pc seems to be quite capable πŸ˜‰ )

              @remus said:

              not sure what would cause it though, if jakob can render it on his machine πŸ˜‰

              well, I was only able to render the whole model after simplifying the windows...

              here is that version (without the twisted building though - that is more than 4 Mb filesize)
              city_simplified.skp

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              • plot-parisP Offline
                plot-paris
                last edited by

                and here another very quick one - 13 680 golden eggs(even with a cube as proxy very slow in SketchUp). quite fast to export though...
                (thanks to OnSurface, JPP, ComponentSpray tools - model was set up in a second πŸ˜„ )

                http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4810/13680eggsxz3.jpg

                I hope to find the time to do something more fancy soon...

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                • plot-parisP Offline
                  plot-paris
                  last edited by

                  this image may not look very interesting. the only purpose was to test out polygon limits of indigo.

                  well, I am tempted to believe there are no limits πŸ˜•

                  one of these forms has more than 55.000 polygons. in this scene I had almost 24.000 instances (low-res proxies in SketchUp, automatically replaced with the original by indigo).

                  that means, that indigo had to handle more than 1.3 Billion! polygons(1.300.000.000) 😲

                  only 60 MB of ram were used by indigo for this very small image (exponentially more, when increasing the file size)...

                  http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8509/13billionpolygonspp5.jpg

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                    chango70
                    last edited by

                    Would this work with Vray?

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                    • I Offline
                      ilay7k
                      last edited by

                      no...only plans

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                      • plot-parisP Offline
                        plot-paris
                        last edited by

                        as far as I know, v-ray doesn't support instancing at present.

                        the most amazing tool about indigo in this case is not only that it allowes instancing, but that you can use a low-poly component as proxy in SketchUp, that are replaced with a high polygon component, when exported to indigo. otherwise you would have no chance to handle such a huge scene in SU...

                        I am not aware of any other render-engine, that does that. πŸ˜•

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                        • FrederikF Offline
                          Frederik
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                          @plot-paris said:

                          as far as I know, v-ray doesn't support instancing at present.

                          Correct... πŸ˜‰

                          @plot-paris said:

                          I am not aware of any other render-engine, that does that. πŸ˜•

                          This is not correct... πŸ˜‰
                          It's not that I want to hi-jack your thread, but I need to correct you since Kerkythea also supports instancing and you can use proxies in SU and replace these with instanced objects in KT... πŸ˜‰

                          Please check out this thread, which is a small step-by-step tutorial I've posted at the KT Forum... πŸ˜‰

                          Cheers
                          Kim Frederik

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                            Jon
                            last edited by

                            @frederik said:

                            Kerkythea also supports instancing and you can use proxies in SU and replace these with instanced objects in KT... πŸ˜‰

                            In fact, Alex once did a test in KT involving a few billion polygons more than that. πŸ˜‰
                            These are great tests, plot. Keep it up. πŸ˜„
                            PS. I though Vue6 could export proxy objects ❓
                            Does anyone know for sure?

                            Jon
                            KT Team member

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                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
                              last edited by

                              Vue 6 has instancing too.

                              okay...too slow you just mentioned it.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • plot-parisP Offline
                                plot-paris
                                last edited by

                                ah, good to know, that there are biased renderers that support instancing as well. I just have to find the time to learn them 😒

                                but please, post your tests here as well! I want to see loads and loads of instances πŸ˜„

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                                • soloS Offline
                                  solo
                                  last edited by

                                  I use Vue quite a lot these days for site overview renders, however I have not yet had the need for instancing, but that is about to change as I need to do an animation of a fly over in the near future that involves a very wooded area and I will need to familiarize myself with this feature soon. as soon As I figure it all out I will post an example and maybe a few screen grabs as to how it works.
                                  If anyone out there is familiar with it and can assist my learning curve I would appreciate that ... Chipp I am looking at you. πŸ˜„

                                  http://www.solos-art.com

                                  If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                    chango70
                                    last edited by

                                    Does anyone know which one of the other instancing renderer is fasster? Has anyone test the them before?

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      Okay!

                                      That was very easy to figure out actually.
                                      I used the Instancing brush in Vue 6 xstream to paint the SCF logo on a very uneven surface, it was extremely quick and smooth and rendered in 11 minutes.
                                      I am impressed at the ease and simplicity of instancing with Vue.


                                      http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6914/instancingts8.jpg

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        acatalyst
                                        last edited by

                                        http://www.vray.info/news/article.asp?ID=271

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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          20 000 trees, 208 million polygons, render time 7m24s


                                          http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4821/instancing1tv6.jpg

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                          • FrederikF Offline
                                            Frederik
                                            last edited by

                                            Dang, Pete... You're smoking hot... πŸ˜„
                                            But that terraine would be impossible to orbit in SU... 😞
                                            I know zip about Vue, but how is your workflow..?? Do you import models from SU to Vue and take it from there, or...?!? πŸ˜•

                                            @Adam - can't see the video... 😐 Guess YouTube needs to get it through their verification system or something, so I will check it later... πŸ˜‰

                                            This is obviously a new plug-in/script you're working on - or.??

                                            Cheers
                                            Kim Frederik

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