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    • majidM Offline
      majid
      last edited by

      ok dear Fredo ....it was just for fun and i know we could use other ways to reach such results ...but maybe this tut describes what i did.... good texturing and background also helped alot.. to reach such realastic palm. 😄


      here is the way i made the leafs

      My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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        Stu
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        WOW Fredo!!!

        Just amazing!!!

        Thank you very much!!

        Stu

        http://www.landesign.com.au

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        • D Offline
          Daniel S
          last edited by

          I have a request...

          The Line on Surface has Point inferences. Can it have linear inferences too?

          I don´t know how to explain it well so i try to make a understable image. If you color the line by axis this can´t be done so it´s very strange what i´m requesting.

          In the image in "1" is what i try to say about linear inference.
          In "2" how draw line on surfaces works and is difficult to get the result of "3".
          In "3" the request 😒 😒

          Daniel S


          request.jpg

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            Daniel,

            If there is one area where I still have to learn is the Inference mechanism in Sketchup.

            However, if you wish to draw contours parallel to others (as in your example), then I suggest you use the Offset tool (possibly with Construction line mode). Select the edges and also faces they border and offset by a distance. This is described in the Tutorial, on pages 3-4.

            I plan to build a Tape Measure tool to ease this operation, but it is still not written.

            Fredo

            PS: by the way, thanks for the icons. I'll see how to integrate in a next release (and there is another proposal from CadFather which I need to look at).

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            • R Offline
              rzadwg
              last edited by

              amazing! thank you so much for this!

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              • dazzaD Offline
                dazza
                last edited by

                Fredo, you are a life saver!
                Thanks for making all our lives so much easier! 😄

                All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.

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                • A Offline
                  a4chitect
                  last edited by

                  Fredo6 please consider adding a multiline on surface functionality to your already bursting list of todo's. The idea is to draw with 2 parallel lines at once (by clicking on the centre/inside/outside) and auto closing of the start and end gaps. And offset variable by typing in the vcb. Usage: more flexible than rectangle on surface. With JPP: quick massing of roads, fences, walls..

                  Thanks to you leaving the code exposed such feature could be added by anyone, or once my schedule clears up a little-will wait 4 me, if you allow.

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                  • JClementsJ Offline
                    JClements
                    last edited by

                    Majid:

                    Nice work.

                    Your example shows what a good, basic approach and the right use of tools can produce.

                    Thank you, John

                    John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                    • majidM Offline
                      majid
                      last edited by

                      JClements :
                      thanx .. at this :http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9383
                      i also added a toolip that is made same way.. I know that also it was possible before , but not so easy that is now....whitought any confusing intersections ...and so ..on .
                      and also my special thanx goes to Fredo! for his good job!

                      My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                      • plot-parisP Offline
                        plot-paris
                        last edited by

                        fredo6 - you are a hero to me! 😍

                        another idea:

                        all the "on surface" tools are already existing tools of SketchUp applied to a surface, right?
                        and when you succeed in creating all the other tools (tape measure, circle, polygon...) our toolbar gets quite large.

                        would it therefore be possible to just have one button in the tool bar (plus a shortcut key to toggle it on and off) that switches the use of SketchUp's native tools to your fabulous on surface tools? thus all my shortcuts would apply to your tools too - I only have to press the "fredo6 button"! 😲

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Not sure if it's been requested yet but how about circle tool and bezier curve to work on the same surfaces?

                          That would be great.

                          By the way I use this tool a heck of a lot these days, wondering how I worked without it.

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                            Iglesias
                            last edited by

                            Thanks a lot, this is wonderful

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              Circles and Polygons are coming!
                              Probably in a few days.

                              Actually, I am struggling to make the algorithm a little more robust, as Sketchup is not accurate enough with methods like Interesect_line_plane, which causes some problems in some situation.

                              By the way, I did not get bug reports about these tools, while myself, I can find several problems when playing with different surface topologies. Maybe it's good enough in a day-to-day work?

                              By the way, I am not sure Bezier is useful on surfaces (precisely because Bezier are much better when drawn in a plane), but I am working on Arcs and also on Polylines (useful in order to correct contours).

                              Just a matter to find some time!!

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                              • ely862meE Offline
                                ely862me
                                last edited by

                                i start to use the offset line,it*s great!the offset tool and the offset are just what i needed!good job and thank you a lot!!

                                i don t know if it can be usefull but some time i needed a follow me with a noncoplanar surfaces can this be done?

                                thx

                                elisei


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                                Elisei (sketchupper)


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                                • S Offline
                                  STRANGEZOND
                                  last edited by

                                  Nice tools! Thanks!!!

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                                  • RayOchoaR Offline
                                    RayOchoa
                                    last edited by

                                    this is awsome

                                    CaR DeSiGnS bY mE
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                                    • plot-parisP Offline
                                      plot-paris
                                      last edited by

                                      dear Fredo6,

                                      when you succeed in adding inference functions (like infering to cordinate axes (or rather coordinate faces)), is it then possible to create a "move on surface" tool? then you could just copy a shape on a curved surface like you now do it on a planar one...move_on_surface.jpg

                                      then the idea of one "on surface" button that changes the use of all the standart tools to your on surface tools would become even more reasonable... 😄

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                                      • L Offline
                                        Loewenkatze
                                        last edited by

                                        Fredo,

                                        thanks sooooo much for this. Everytime you bring a new tool to life, I get the feeling of using a brand new application or at least a new major release of SU. I fear that SU won't have the same progress regarding the core engine...... Anyone here to be in a position to write a multiprocessor-enabled SU-clone with all that plugins being built in...? 😒 😉

                                        Cheers,
                                        Franziska

                                        "I think play is the most important thing in the world." [Jacques-Yves Cousteau]

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                                        • D Offline
                                          Daniel S
                                          last edited by

                                          I don´t know if it´s possible to make, but the "move on surface" tool is a great idea!!
                                          Thank you again for your plugins Fredo!!!

                                          Daniel S

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                                          • K Offline
                                            kwistenbiebel
                                            last edited by

                                            Cool thinking Plot-Paris, that would be handy.

                                            By the way,
                                            Fredo, I love this plugin. I use it often in combo with JPP/FF and Subsmooth. (damn abbreviations 😄 )

                                            I can't wait for circles, rectangles and polygons to be added as it would allow us to make windows in curved surfaces easily.

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