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    majid
    last edited by 13 May 2008, 21:08

    ok dear Fredo ....it was just for fun and i know we could use other ways to reach such results ...but maybe this tut describes what i did.... good texturing and background also helped alot.. to reach such realastic palm. 😄


    here is the way i made the leafs

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      Stu
      last edited by 14 May 2008, 00:40

      WOW Fredo!!!

      Just amazing!!!

      Thank you very much!!

      Stu

      http://www.landesign.com.au

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        Daniel S
        last edited by 14 May 2008, 02:25

        I have a request...

        The Line on Surface has Point inferences. Can it have linear inferences too?

        I don´t know how to explain it well so i try to make a understable image. If you color the line by axis this can´t be done so it´s very strange what i´m requesting.

        In the image in "1" is what i try to say about linear inference.
        In "2" how draw line on surfaces works and is difficult to get the result of "3".
        In "3" the request 😒 😒

        Daniel S


        request.jpg

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        • F Offline
          fredo6
          last edited by 14 May 2008, 05:34

          Daniel,

          If there is one area where I still have to learn is the Inference mechanism in Sketchup.

          However, if you wish to draw contours parallel to others (as in your example), then I suggest you use the Offset tool (possibly with Construction line mode). Select the edges and also faces they border and offset by a distance. This is described in the Tutorial, on pages 3-4.

          I plan to build a Tape Measure tool to ease this operation, but it is still not written.

          Fredo

          PS: by the way, thanks for the icons. I'll see how to integrate in a next release (and there is another proposal from CadFather which I need to look at).

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            rzadwg
            last edited by 14 May 2008, 06:41

            amazing! thank you so much for this!

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              dazza
              last edited by 14 May 2008, 06:49

              Fredo, you are a life saver!
              Thanks for making all our lives so much easier! 😄

              All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.

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                a4chitect
                last edited by 14 May 2008, 10:14

                Fredo6 please consider adding a multiline on surface functionality to your already bursting list of todo's. The idea is to draw with 2 parallel lines at once (by clicking on the centre/inside/outside) and auto closing of the start and end gaps. And offset variable by typing in the vcb. Usage: more flexible than rectangle on surface. With JPP: quick massing of roads, fences, walls..

                Thanks to you leaving the code exposed such feature could be added by anyone, or once my schedule clears up a little-will wait 4 me, if you allow.

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                  JClements
                  last edited by 14 May 2008, 16:44

                  Majid:

                  Nice work.

                  Your example shows what a good, basic approach and the right use of tools can produce.

                  Thank you, John

                  John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                    majid
                    last edited by 14 May 2008, 19:10

                    JClements :
                    thanx .. at this :http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9383
                    i also added a toolip that is made same way.. I know that also it was possible before , but not so easy that is now....whitought any confusing intersections ...and so ..on .
                    and also my special thanx goes to Fredo! for his good job!

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                      plot-paris
                      last edited by 20 May 2008, 14:47

                      fredo6 - you are a hero to me! 😍

                      another idea:

                      all the "on surface" tools are already existing tools of SketchUp applied to a surface, right?
                      and when you succeed in creating all the other tools (tape measure, circle, polygon...) our toolbar gets quite large.

                      would it therefore be possible to just have one button in the tool bar (plus a shortcut key to toggle it on and off) that switches the use of SketchUp's native tools to your fabulous on surface tools? thus all my shortcuts would apply to your tools too - I only have to press the "fredo6 button"! 😲

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                        solo
                        last edited by 20 May 2008, 14:52

                        Not sure if it's been requested yet but how about circle tool and bezier curve to work on the same surfaces?

                        That would be great.

                        By the way I use this tool a heck of a lot these days, wondering how I worked without it.

                        http://www.solos-art.com

                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          Iglesias
                          last edited by 20 May 2008, 15:55

                          Thanks a lot, this is wonderful

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 20 May 2008, 19:49

                            Circles and Polygons are coming!
                            Probably in a few days.

                            Actually, I am struggling to make the algorithm a little more robust, as Sketchup is not accurate enough with methods like Interesect_line_plane, which causes some problems in some situation.

                            By the way, I did not get bug reports about these tools, while myself, I can find several problems when playing with different surface topologies. Maybe it's good enough in a day-to-day work?

                            By the way, I am not sure Bezier is useful on surfaces (precisely because Bezier are much better when drawn in a plane), but I am working on Arcs and also on Polylines (useful in order to correct contours).

                            Just a matter to find some time!!

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                              ely862me
                              last edited by 20 May 2008, 20:13

                              i start to use the offset line,it*s great!the offset tool and the offset are just what i needed!good job and thank you a lot!!

                              i don t know if it can be usefull but some time i needed a follow me with a noncoplanar surfaces can this be done?

                              thx

                              elisei


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                                STRANGEZOND
                                last edited by 22 May 2008, 21:37

                                Nice tools! Thanks!!!

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                                  RayOchoa
                                  last edited by 28 May 2008, 02:17

                                  this is awsome

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                                    plot-paris
                                    last edited by 3 Jun 2008, 13:29

                                    dear Fredo6,

                                    when you succeed in adding inference functions (like infering to cordinate axes (or rather coordinate faces)), is it then possible to create a "move on surface" tool? then you could just copy a shape on a curved surface like you now do it on a planar one...move_on_surface.jpg

                                    then the idea of one "on surface" button that changes the use of all the standart tools to your on surface tools would become even more reasonable... 😄

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                                      Loewenkatze
                                      last edited by 3 Jun 2008, 14:35

                                      Fredo,

                                      thanks sooooo much for this. Everytime you bring a new tool to life, I get the feeling of using a brand new application or at least a new major release of SU. I fear that SU won't have the same progress regarding the core engine...... Anyone here to be in a position to write a multiprocessor-enabled SU-clone with all that plugins being built in...? 😒 😉

                                      Cheers,
                                      Franziska

                                      "I think play is the most important thing in the world." [Jacques-Yves Cousteau]

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                                        Daniel S
                                        last edited by 3 Jun 2008, 14:43

                                        I don´t know if it´s possible to make, but the "move on surface" tool is a great idea!!
                                        Thank you again for your plugins Fredo!!!

                                        Daniel S

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                                          kwistenbiebel
                                          last edited by 3 Jun 2008, 17:58

                                          Cool thinking Plot-Paris, that would be handy.

                                          By the way,
                                          Fredo, I love this plugin. I use it often in combo with JPP/FF and Subsmooth. (damn abbreviations 😄 )

                                          I can't wait for circles, rectangles and polygons to be added as it would allow us to make windows in curved surfaces easily.

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