Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

fredo6

I plan to refresh the JPP script and address the problem of generation of the geometry. JPP is quite old now and since then, I have been able to understand better how SU works for performance and reliability.

Fredo

derei

@unknownuser said:

I plan to refresh the JPP script and address the problem of generation of the geometry. JPP is quite old now and since then, I have been able to understand better how SU works for performance and reliability.

Fredo

jgb

@dave r said:

@jgb said:

Tig

A suggestion if I may.

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JPP needs a cancel or quit button.

Are you suggesting this should be done by TIG?

Sorry, No slight intended.
I sometimes get confused which Ruby Magician did what.

Also; In my experience (dated for sure) Key Down Polling inside an outer or mid loop should not really affect performance, unless you are forced to use a nested call.

thomthom

Problem is that you cannot poll keys within the SU API.

jgb

@thomthom said:

Problem is that you cannot poll keys within the SU API.

OK, I stand corrected.

Key polling is a fundamental function. Can't believe those who designed the API left that one out.

thomthom

There is much to be desired in the API...

liuwuran

Thanks a lot ,very useful

Takashi_Komuro

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

TIG

@takashi_komuro said:

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?
Read the guidance notes on the first page of this thread, there is even a help-pdf file you can download...
There are also examples throughout the thread...
Put simply, by using JPP you can 'extrude' preselected facets that form a surface so they have a 'thickness', in ways that are not possible using the native PushPull tools...

pilou

@unknownuser said:

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The only automatic easy way to make thickness!

jgb

@takashi_komuro said:

What advantages and functions of the Joint Push Pull ?

The major advantage of JPP over SU native Push/Pull is that where SU PP only works on individual flat faces, JPP works on combined curved surfaces made up from many flat faces.

There are 3 versions of JPP, where the thickening occurs perpendicular to the selected surface, or you can set an angle to the direction of thickening. The third is a variation of SU's PP, which I never use so no comment on its functionality.

A few tips to consider before using JPP.

Make sure you do an "Orient Faces" before using the tool.
IMHO that should be a default function within JPP.
Turn ON hidden lines only if you want to do a selection of faces on a surface.
Turn OFF hidden lines if you want to do the total surface.
Alternatively, turn ON hidden lines and make the perimeter of the selected faces soft/smooth lines SOFT. That will define a surface in one selection when Hidden Lines are OFF.
When JPP does its thing, check the corners. Most of the lines JPP creates along the thickness are soft/smooth, and the sharp corners may not be hard, if desired. Just <Shift-CTRL-Delete> those lines to make them hard.
Attempting to JPP to a thickness in relation to some object in the drawing may not give you the desired thickness when done.
The better way is to JPP beyond the desired thickness, INSPECT the shape for integrity (purple lines), then type to the VCB the exact thickness dimension desired, BEFORE you double click (or <Enter> twice).

Mra

This tool crashes heaps with 2013.

Repro steps:

Create square.
Group it
Go into group
Extrude it
Exit group = crash.

thomthom

Do you have plugins installed? Tried disabling them temporarily to see if it might be one of them causing it?

TIG

Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...

Mra

@tig said:

Sounds like some other script like Vray-beta or one of the half-baked new BIM tools is loading... and that is crashing SketchUp when this JPP does a legitimate operation.
It's usually from messing with native class/methods or having poorly constructed EntitiesObservers etc that kick in during other tools legit operations and cause the crash.
If you do find the culprit script then please let us know AND tell that scripts author about it too, so that they might then try to fix it...

You're a sharp man. Yes, I am apart of the V-Ray beta. Pretty sure you're right about it too.

Mra

Confirmed: It is V-Ray, I'll let them know.

bulba

i've downloaded this plugin months ago and forgot to say thanks..
THANKS A LOT Fredo
been using this regularly

rempeyeks

i've got error message here.
is that joint push pull dont work in sketchup 2013?

TIG

Have you properly installed ALL of the latest versions of Fredo's tools AND LibFredo...
He upgraded his Lib and several of his tools to work with v2013...

TIG

A reprise of the tool's help...

The footprint in the SketchUp Plugins Directory must be:

jointpushpull.rb
LibTraductor.rb
JPP_Dir_17 folder [containing other files]

On Mac for v8 the SU plugin directory should be:

Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Google SketchUp 8/SketchUp/plugins

Note: once installed, you can safely delete any older JPP_Dir_xx folders

CAUTION:
NEVER rename or move files from their folders.
If you are unsure of your unzip operation, do it in a neutral folder and check that you reconstruct the right footprint.
Then transfer the folders and files to the SketchUp Plugin Directory.

Have you done all of this ?
Have you restarted SketchUp ?
Did you look in the xxxx menu ?

Since you say you have v8, then why not get the latest RBZ version from the SCF PluginStore then use the Preferences > Extensions > Install from Archive, button [v8M2 or newer] to automate it all, so you don't make mistakes...
You could even get the 'SketchUcation Plugin Store' toolset which allows you tp browse and AutoInstall hundreds of plugins with just a button-click from within SketchUp itself...
See the Resources menu items above...