So what's in 6.4.112?

tomsdesk · 16 Dec 2007, 18:36

Sketchy, sorry for changing the tone of your thread...though I was actually mostly upset with the once again slow-down of the functioning of SU6: my personal, but harsh, direct answer to your question. And Paul too, I've read through this thread once again and didn't found any personal attacks, though there were a couple of pretty snide remarks about Google...nothing new there, so I don't see the point behind "inferring" there is an attitude, by any of us posting here so far, of personal disrespect toward the SU team. There certainly wasn't any on my part.

The gotta-do-it-now upgrade was also maddening to me...yes, and did to me too seem like something a big dog like Google would do (my DSL is AT&T Yahoo and I have to turn off "check for upgrades" completely to save having similar experiences). But once again Brad proved the @last spirit is still alive by coming here to address the issue even though the comments here weren't directed at him or his crew. Kuddos Brad.

(I am also crafting an equally strident post for the beta forum, though more respectful as it will be directed to the SU team: hoping to find out what, if anything, is to be done about the increasingly sluggish behavior of SU6...? Or if they have more information to share on the recommended hardware required to allow SU6 to run at least as well as 5, since the Google hardware recommendations are now so "careful"...?)

Best, Tom.

CraigD · 16 Dec 2007, 18:47

@insitebuilders said:

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(let me know if the results matter to anyone..

/Dennis
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Yes Dennis, we'd be very interested! We may want to take a look at the file to see where it's crashing. Let us know about your test, and we'll go from there.

Thank you also to Sketchy and Paul Miller. We appreciate it. It truly hurts us when something goes wrong that affects you guys in a negative way.

I've said it before...WE CARE A LOT ABOUT YOU GUYS! We're working very hard on the future of SketchUp and quality is on the top of the list. We've also noted the problems over the past year with delivery and communication and we aim to not repeat any mistakes.

Please continue to have faith in us. We're working harder and smarter every day.

Cheers,

 - CraigD

gksl4 · 16 Dec 2007, 20:27

CraigD,

I have many objections about working (google su team) smarter (at least). And please don't use @Last name any more.

Francois · 16 Dec 2007, 20:29

@anssi said:

Francois,

Deleting the Plist file has often been the remedy for importers/exporters not working

Anssi

Anssi,
Thank you for the suggestion.
Yes, I know that and did delete the plist file before posting. But that didn't solve the problem ...
Thank you anyway.

CraigD · 17 Dec 2007, 00:41

@gksl4 said:

CraigD,

I have many objections about working (google su team) smarter (at least). And please don't use @Last name any more.

You lost me bud. You want to explain?

 - CraigD

markitekt · 17 Dec 2007, 02:42

The update worked great for me. Now finally we can import and export Acad 2007/2008 files.
I was wondering when they were going to get around to this. It was a definite hassle having to export in 2004 format before importing to SketchUp.

tim · 17 Dec 2007, 06:54

I've tried the update on my macbook and
a) it installed as 6.4.120
b) the beachballing selection actually seems worse

Sigh. I hate to see a load of work not actually solve a problem.

utiler · 17 Dec 2007, 07:06

I've noticed a bit of choking down too....

CraigD, what is your recommended graphics card size? I assume it will change from what was listed when V6.0 was released.

Cheers

Gidon Yuval · 17 Dec 2007, 08:34

I downloaded it and so far I haven't come across any problems at all.
Actualy, I don't see much of a difference.
Is there anything different?

CNC Paul · 17 Dec 2007, 11:35

Hi all,

Where did 6.4.112 come from, I can only find 6.0.01313 ?

I just tried to install the latest upgrade, the install crashed with a catastrophic failure(their words)... now Layout will not open because it cannot seem to find the licence file.....Any ideas ?

Thanks

Paul

brad · 17 Dec 2007, 15:13

Paul,

101313 is our internal build number from our build machine. 6.4.112 is the Sketchup.exe version number. They are one in the same. Have you been able to uninstall and/or reinstall SketchUp to get it working? What part of the install process did the crash happen? Did you install over the existing installed SketchUp or did you uninstall and do a clean install of M4?

Gidon, M4 only contains changes to support the importing and exporting of ACAD DWG 2007. We made one Ruby change to support DWG exporting and we did some localization changes. That's it. No new features, no other code changed. Hope that helps.

gksl4 · 17 Dec 2007, 15:15

@craigd said:

@gksl4 said:

CraigD,

I have many objections about working (google su team) smarter (at least). And please don't use @Last name any more.

You lost me bud. You want to explain?
 - CraigD

Silence is gold

brad · 17 Dec 2007, 15:44

Silence is gold if people understand what your messages is, otherwise silence is confusing.

@unknownuser said:

I have many objections about working (google su team) smarter (at least). And please don't use @Last name any more.

I don't know what this means either.

Please tell us what you mean.

Thank you.

gksl4 · 17 Dec 2007, 16:25

IMHO Sketchup progress is poor and very limited. @Last days left and never come back again. Sorry but I cannot express my thoughts correct because English is not my native language. Last update was the last drop. I will stay with pro version 5 and memories of a great piece of software that lost in the dust.

Thank you

Gaieus · 17 Dec 2007, 17:10

I don't know guys...

I think we should be happy that some people of the SketchUp Team is participating these forums (in their free time) and try to help us out both with technical support and with information when we are lost. As I'm starting to know them they are doing this because they are at least as SketchUp enthusiasts as we all are. In the worst case they are here to explain (and eventually apologize for) a mistake they (or anyone else in the team) have made but for me it seems that they have done it correctly.

I'd really like to keep these guys here - not for my own sake but for that of the whole community we all are building here together (and yes; together with them) - so could we just calm down a little bit, put all the ranting and sentiments aside and if there is a technical issue with SketchUp, concentrate on it?

And English is not my mother tongue either so if there is anything misinterpetable in my post you can be sure that it was not intentional from my side. I don't mean to scold anyone or act like a moderator now...

sketchy · 17 Dec 2007, 17:57

I really agree with you Gai. I have found that this is generally a very constructive and creative forum. I would love to see it stay that way, I have learned so much from it.

I have noticed that negative ranting tends to gain momentum in forums and it changes the tone of the threads over time. People just start posting the same negative rants over and over again "the magic is gone", "Google doesn't care about us", "they never give me what I want" etc.. It drives away constructive and creative people that like the program and want to talk about how it is used. Your posts will decide what kind of forum this is. I am casting my vote for posts with some level of maturity and a constructive approach to problems as they come up.

That's my 2 cents. Does anyone else want to see a more constructive tone in our posts and less doom and gloom?

gksl4 · 17 Dec 2007, 18:40

OK. My problem is that I want to see progress and further development for my favorite software. Am I wrong?

tomsdesk · 17 Dec 2007, 18:46

Absolutely, Sketchy...even though politics and SU6 are the only subjects most of us get negative about, I'm all for a moderate approach to problems as they arise...(initially :`)

And I'm sure most of this bunch will soon (if they haven't already) get over this update oops even though it seems, to me at least, a rather big rhin0ser0s to miss...especially since the "@last" has jumped on it so quickly: thank you again.

So in the spirit of being constructive I ask, Brad, Craig: What is being done about "unresponsive" nature of SU6 compaired to SU5...software-wise? And what can we do...hardware-wise, to help alleviate this ongoing (and, it seems to me, increasing) problem. I really would like to use just one version of SketchUp in my workflow...really!

Thanks, Tom.

tomsdesk · 17 Dec 2007, 18:54

Bruce, no such stuff on my machine...and I clean the registry (with free software, yes :`) since you suggested such several months ago.

It still may be my machine, and I am quite willing to do something (quite a bit, actually) about it...but the same task taking longer after an update, on the same day!, screams: code! But you're right, I'm only guessing.

Best, Tom.
BTW, my last post was quite serious, wry maybe, but not sarcastic at all.

tomsdesk · 17 Dec 2007, 19:32

Bruce: 55 as we speak. Can you direct me to the best way to learn to take back control of my own environment...I'll add it to the arsenal. I don't want SU6 to just work (it works now) I want it to work fast!