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    TIG Moderator @pipinek
    last edited by TIG 23 May 2024, 18:28

    @pipinek

    That Console set of error messages, opens another can of worms...

    Going down your list...

    Try disabling Vray as it's throwing an error. Ensure you have the latest version installed.
    Not sure why it's installed in your Program Files like that... Check the correct installation...

    The ../Plugins/!Curic_gesture is also causing issues, and would be best disabled.

    Then we get to the main errors...

    C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools/gems/3.2.0/gems/rexml-3.2.5/lib/
    should NOT contain any of Fredo's extensions or the LibFredo6, RB file OR the associated subfolders of the same names.

    How did you install them in there ?
    Did you do it from the RBZ's or ExtensionStore³ ?
    If the latter, check your settings and your Paths is set to Plugins...

    These Fredo extensions should be in your Plugins folder... [they might be already?]
    Remove the incorrectly installed RB files and subfolders of the same name...

    The various issues with the ../Plugin/smustard_... files failing to load is probably because they are no longer compatible with v2024 - disable them.

    Once you've done some house-keeping retry and report back...

    TIG

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      TIG Moderator @pipinek
      last edited by TIG 23 May 2024, 18:33

      @pipinek

      Don't delete the C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2024\Tools\gems\3.2.0\gems\rexml-3.2.5\lib
      folder as it's a shipped folder, but the Fredo files and subfolders should be removed so the Plugins folder versions load properly when loaded properly.

      It's a complete disaster !

      And... you must have the SketchUcation stuff installed in Plugins too - it works the licensing.

      TIG

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        pipinek @TIG
        last edited by pipinek 23 May 2024, 18:50

        @TIG
        Thank you.

        I will tidy up as recommended.

        In the meantime, I have deleted all Fredo6 files and folders from the SU 2024 Plugin Folder.

        I have erased all files and folders from the Fredo6 name from the gems...lib folder.

        I installed the previously deleted/uninstalled extension Sketchucation Tool (the entire list of preserved settings appeared in it).

        I installed all Fredo6 extensions via Sketchucation Tools.
        Tolbars appeared on the screen.

        After starting the SU, none of the installed Fredo6 extensions loaded.

        Fredo6 files and folders reappeared in the lib folder.

        However, no Fredo6 files or folders appeared in the SU 2024 Plugins folder after installation via Sketchucation Tools.

        Fredo6 extension is not visible in the Extension Manager list.

        Maybe there is something wrong between my chair and.... screen?

        Update:

        I copied all Fredo6 files and folders from the backup to the SU 2024 Plugins folder (previously deleted when uninstalling them)

        I have removed all Fredo6 files and folders from the gems...elib folder and opened SU 2024.

        All the Fred6 ectensions appeared on the screen (toolbars) - not in their previous place, but I was pleased to see this.

        Although I think this is a bit of an anomaly and I don't feel confident using SU.

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          fredo6 @pipinek
          last edited by 23 May 2024, 19:13

          @pipinek

          It would be good to have the list of files and folders in your Plugins folder.

          Also, you said that it has happened 'suddenly'. Did you remember if you did something just before?

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            pipinek @fredo6
            last edited by 23 May 2024, 19:28

            @fredo6
            Greetings,

            Unfortunately, I cannot pinpoint any key moment when the Fredo6 extension stopped loading.

            On a couple of occasions when I opened the SU for no (usual) reason, a list of extensions appeared on the screen which should have been unblocked by Sketchucation Tools.

            I simply closed the toolbars that appeared.

            And then at one point Fred6 just didn't appear on the screen, didn't load.

            Is this about the list of files and folders in the SU 2024 Plugins folder?

            Thanks for taking a look.

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              fredo6 @pipinek
              last edited by 23 May 2024, 20:22

              @pipinek said in Fredo6 extensions (none of them) not loading SU 2024:

              Is this about the list of files and folders in the SU 2024 Plugins folder?

              Yes. Do you have a list or a screenshot?

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                TIG Moderator @pipinek
                last edited by 23 May 2024, 20:33

                @pipinek

                Have you any ideas how your installed extensions ended up in that 'gems' folder subfolder ?
                Can you open your SketchUcation's ExtensionStore³ dialog and click Setting, then Paths and report the path that's chosen.
                If it's not your default Plugins folder something is adrift !

                It really doesn't need to be this complicated...

                TIG

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                  pipinek @fredo6
                  last edited by 23 May 2024, 20:51

                  @fredo6

                  Here they are:

                  P_01.png P_02.png P_03.png P_04.png P_05.png P_06.png P_07.png P_08.png P_09.png P_10.png

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                    fredo6 @pipinek
                    last edited by 23 May 2024, 21:32

                    @pipinek

                    The files and folders seems to be present.

                    So, there is something messing up the load of plugins.

                    I have never seen this message:

                    Fredo6_!LibFredo6.rb can not be loaded because an extension loader file with the same name was previously loaded.

                    What is exactly the role of this gem of the Sketchup Extension Manager?

                    Could it be that some pieces of my extensions are also present in another directory?. Can you check what you see in:

                    • C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins
                    • C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools

                    With all the plugins you have, it's going difficult to troubleshoot the loading of extensions.

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                      pipinek @fredo6
                      last edited by 23 May 2024, 21:50

                      @fredo6

                      I attach the contents of the two folders mentioned.

                      The third folder contained a whole series of Fredo6 files and folders created there after the installation of extensions via Sketchucation Tools.

                      When installing the Fredo6 extensions Sketchucation Tools did not create any folder or file in the SU 2024 Plugins folder.

                      Only in the lib folder.

                      When I removed them all from the lib folder and copied the files and folders from the Fredo6 backap to SU 2024 Plugin all Fredo6 extensions appeared loaded.

                      PS
                      I have no idea what role the gem folder plays. Apparently not the best.![alt text](1.png 2.png 3.png image url)

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                        fredo6 @pipinek
                        last edited by 23 May 2024, 22:00

                        @pipinek

                        What is the path of this 'third folder'.

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                          TIG Moderator @fredo6
                          last edited by TIG 23 May 2024, 22:35

                          @fredo6

                          I agree with Fredo.
                          If you have somethings loading that then interfere with Fredo's extensions/lib, then it suggests they are loading earlier than the Plugins folder's RB files...
                          So somethings have either been put into Tools, or Tools../gems./... or maybe ../ProgramData/.../Plugins

                          Please check these locations...

                          Your posts cross with mine...

                          Your ProgramData Plugins seems OK, though I don't see why some extensions other than vfs are in there.
                          The Tools folder looks OK.
                          The Tools... gems...lib folder should only contain the rexml stuff, why the Helix stuff is there is a mystery...
                          What is this 'third-folder' ??

                          TIG

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                            pipinek @fredo6
                            last edited by pipinek 23 May 2024, 22:48

                            @fredo6
                            C:\Program Files\SketchUp\SketchUp 2024\Tools\gems\3.2.0\gems\rexml-3.2.5\lib

                            The very same plugins I have installed in SU 2023 on the same machine/laptop without any issues.

                            Two mentioned by Fredo6 folders:

                            C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/SketchUp/Plugins
                            C:/Program Files/SketchUp/SketchUp 2024/Tools
                            

                            Third one as on the first line here.

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                              FlawinneF
                              last edited by 24 May 2024, 11:48

                              Hello,

                              I think I have already encountered this problem, when you have plugins in ProgramData in the plugin Sketucation presents a repository destination list for the plugin installation and I mistakenly messed it up in ProgramData, but by default it is has no write rights in, which causes an error loading the plugin which wants to write in its directory, I uninstalled the plugin which was causing the problem and reinstalled the plugin in the repository which is in directory roaming and the plugin worked correctly.

                              For the one with the name 3Dx.SketchUp, I think it's for 3d space mice, it doesn't seem like an error to me that it's there, since it's more linked to system (Machine) than user

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                                TIG Moderator @pipinek
                                last edited by 24 May 2024, 13:59

                                @pipinek

                                I think Gábor and I have devised a 'trap' to avoid this happening again.
                                The potential paths are already 'culled' to just a few possibilities.
                                Things like Tools and Gems etc are omitted Ruby side.
                                Your ../gems/.../lib one slipped through, as it didn't end in ../gems

                                We are also forcing the default path more robustly, as yours sneaked into the top of the list.
                                When Gábor has tweaked the js side listing we'll report back...

                                I still don't know where your ../gems/.../lib folder came to be in your $LOAD_PATH in the first place...
                                Is it added by some other extension ?

                                TIG

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                                  Gábor
                                  last edited by 27 May 2024, 10:52

                                  We have implemented the changes TIG described in his previous post.

                                  I'd like to ask those who had problems with their plugins being installed to the wrong folders to restart their SketchUcation Tools Extension Store and check the Settings / Path tab to see if the faulty folders are now excluded from the list of possible install folders.

                                  The Extension store on restart might throw an error about the default installation folder not existing. After the error message please go to the Settings / Path tab and make sure the correct installation folder is selected there.

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                                    pipinek @Gábor
                                    last edited by 28 May 2024, 19:17

                                    @Gábor
                                    Thank you

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