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    • Rich O BrienR Online
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      Your question is one only you can answer. You can trial his extensions and decide if you need them or not.

      You'll answer your 2nd question as soon as you begin exploring the first.

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      • Rich O BrienR Online
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        I'm not fully understanding your question.

        You have the older archived versions installed and you also have bought the bundle?

        You are asking what is the difference between the free archived and the current commercial versions?

        @unknownuser said:

        This is a LEGACY version of FredoTools for Sketchup versions PRIOR to SU2017 (so up to SU2016). Do NOT install it for Sketchup version >= 2017

        If you want to read about the differences you can look at the release notes...

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        • J Offline
          jsinmichael
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          Is there a reason that RoundCorner is included in the bundle instead of FredoCorner? While RoundCorner still works, it hasn't been updated in 4 years. Is this at risk of becoming "legacy".

          Thanks,
          J

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
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            @jsinmichael said:

            Is there a reason that RoundCorner is included in the bundle instead of FredoCorner? While RoundCorner still works, it hasn't been updated in 4 years. Is this at risk of becoming "legacy".

            RoundCorner is not legacy. Simply, it uses a different algorithm compared with FredoCorner.

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              JohnButler222
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              If someone provides something for free and then at a later date says to you that you need to pay for what was given for free, I would suspect that person might also assure you it's a one off purchase and then at a later date change their mind again and demand regular subscription payments.

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                @johnbutler222 said:

                ...I would suspect that person might also assure you it's a one off purchase and then at a later date change their mind again and demand regular subscription payments.

                They might do so. The might not. If that's what you expect will happen you could choose not to upgrade to the current version and forego any upgrades, or use alternative extensions, or write your own extensions.

                According to your forum profile you are stillusing SketchUp 2016. If that's the case you can use the old legacy versions of Fredo6's extensions. They are still available at no charge.

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                • Rich O BrienR Online
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  @johnbutler222 said:

                  If someone provides something for free and then at a later date says to you that you need to pay for what was given for free, I would suspect that person might also assure you it's a one off purchase and then at a later date change their mind again and demand regular subscription payments.

                  per·​pet·​u·​al
                  a: continuing forever : EVERLASTING
                  b: valid for all time

                  That is the term Fredo applies to his licenses. Also the archived versions remain free just not maintained.

                  Maintaining extensions to work across many versions of SketchUp is time-consuming and in some cases impossible.

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                    JohnButler222
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                    @dave r said:

                    @johnbutler222 said:

                    ...I would suspect that person might also assure you it's a one off purchase and then at a later date change their mind again and demand regular subscription payments.

                    They might do so. The might not. If that's what you expect will happen you could choose not to upgrade to the current version and forego any future upgrades, or use alternative extensions, or write your own extensions.

                    According to your forum profile you are stillusing SketchUp 2016. If that's the case you can use the old legacy versions of Fredo6's extensions. They are still available at no charge.

                    Thanks for the suggestion but I am using SketchUp 2017. I looked at the legacy version of Round Corner and it says I should not use it for Sketchup 2017.

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                      JohnButler222
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                      @rich o brien said:

                      @johnbutler222 said:

                      If someone provides something for free and then at a later date says to you that you need to pay for what was given for free, I would suspect that person might also assure you it's a one off purchase and then at a later date change their mind again and demand regular subscription payments.

                      per·​pet·​u·​al
                      a: continuing forever : EVERLASTING
                      b: valid for all time

                      That is the term Fredo applies to his licenses. Also the archived versions remain free just not maintained.

                      Maintaining extensions to work across many versions of SketchUp is time-consuming and in some cases impossible.

                      The issue is not the maintenance of extensions because I am talking about older extensions.
                      For example, Round Corner was free in 2017. That same version is now no longer free. And the archived version says it cannot be used on Sketchup 2017.

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                      • Rich O BrienR Online
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                        Not sure how I can help you if I'm honest. Are you looking for help? Or just venting?

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
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                          @johnbutler222 said:

                          @dave r said:

                          Thanks for the suggestion but I am using SketchUp 2017. I looked at the legacy version of Round Corner and it says I should not use it for Sketchup 2017.

                          Your profile says you are using SketchUp 2016 Pro. Evidently you need to update your profile.

                          If you aren't interested in compensating Fredo6 for his hard work at keeping his extensions current, a very small investment, don't update. Keep using the older free version. It's your choice.

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                            @dave r said:

                            @johnbutler222 said:

                            @dave r said:

                            Thanks for the suggestion but I am using SketchUp 2017. I looked at the legacy version of Round Corner and it says I should not use it for Sketchup 2017.

                            Your profile says you are using SketchUp 2016 Pro. Evidently you need to update your profile.

                            If you aren't interested in compensating Fredo6 for his hard work at keeping his extensions current, a very small investment, don't update. Keep using the older free version. It's your choice.

                            Thanks for your suggestion. However, as I said the free version of the plugin is now asking for money. I am not in need of a maintained plugin that works with current versions of Sketchup, I only need the original plugin that was offered for free to keep functioning.

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                              JohnButler222
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                              @rich o brien said:

                              Not sure how I can help you if I'm honest. Are you looking for help? Or just venting?

                              Yes, help would certainly be appreciated. Do you know of a way to ensure the free version of Round Corner remains functional in Sketchup 2017? Thanks.

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
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                                The old free version of Round Corner won't change and neither will SketchUp 2017 so it you don't update the extension there's no reason to expect it to stop functioning. Your profile indicates you are using a Mac. Since you aren't insterested in updating SketchUp you'd best not update the Mac OS. Many users are reporting that older versions of SketchUp don't work on the newer Mac OS versions.

                                Fix your profile already.

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                                  @dave r said:

                                  The old free version of Round Corner won't change and neither will SketchUp 2017 so it you don't update the extension there's no reason to expect it to stop functioning. Your profile indicates you are using a Mac. Since you aren't insterested in updating SketchUp you'd best not update the Mac OS. Many users are reporting that older versions of SketchUp don't work on the newer Mac OS versions.

                                  Fix your profile already.

                                  Unfortunately in my case the old free version of Round Corner has decided it is no longer free. Other users have reported the same. Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use. As for Sketchup, the 2017 version works fine on Catalina thankfully and I do not plan to upgrade further. And no need to "fix my profile" since I have another machine with Sketchup 2016, but thanks for the suggestion.

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
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                                    Well, sorry, I guess we can't do anything further for you.

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use.

                                    I guess you shouldn't have done that.

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                                      @dave r said:

                                      Well, sorry, I guess we can't do anything further for you.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Perhaps it is to do with updating the shared library the plugins use.

                                      I guess you shouldn't have done that.

                                      I guess not. Clever Fredo.

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
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                                        As I wrote before, you are certainly welcome to find other extensions to use instead of Fredo's or write your own. Fredo has put in a lot of work to make and improve his extensions. You've benefitted from that work, too. The price of the Round Corner extension license is a trivial amount. If your time is worth anything at all, I'm sure Round Corner has saved you enough time already to have more than paid for it.

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                                          @dave r said:

                                          As I wrote before, you are certainly welcome to find other extensions to use instead of Fredo's or write your own. Fredo has put in a lot of work to make and improve his extensions. You've benefitted from that work, too. The price of the Round Corner extension license is a trivial amount. If your time is worth anything at all, I'm sure Round Corner has saved you enough time already to have more than paid for it.

                                          Absolutely. Fredo's extensions have helped masses of people and he deserves to make money from his new and updated extensions now that he has decided to charge. But I'm not alone in thinking old extensions for old versions of Sketchup that were offered for free at the time should not have their functionality removed.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
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                                            It's what it is. Write your own extensions and then you won't have to deal with it.

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