[Plugin][$] FredoScale - v3.6a - 01 Apr 24

Dave R · 9 Oct 2018, 10:56

After using that function, changing one instance of the component A does not change the other instances. Whoops!

Ist there
(a) something I'm doing plain wrong?

Yes. It sounds like you aren't opening the component for editing before running Box Stretching. If you were going to modify the components with other tools, you would need to open one instance for editing first. You need to do the same with Fredoscale as well.

@hafer said:

(b) some limitation with your plugin?

Not anymore limitation than any other tool has for modifying components.

@hafer said:

(c) another way to stretch models along an imaginary section through the model?

It can be done with native Move tool. Select the geometry that needs to move with the dimension change and use the Move tool to move that by the required distance.

fredo6 · 18 Dec 2018, 20:38

NEW RELEASE: FredoScale v3.1a - 18 Dec 18

Requirement: LibFredo6 8.7a

FredoScale 3.1a provides a Quick Launcher for all FredoScale tools. The divider is also enabled by default for the Stretch tool.

Home Page of FredoScale for information and Download.

Main post of this FredoScale thread .

rv1974 · 14 Feb 2019, 08:06

Fredo,
Maybe I as usual miss something but I thought it'd be a great improvement if there was an option to pull the grip and then input a number with +- with units abbreviation. Say +50cm.
And the tool would incrementally add 50cm in ordered direction. It'd be super awesome if it could add (those 50cm) to multiple objects simultaneously.
P.S. I attach something with some overhelming features, maybe it could be interesting for you

fredo6 · 14 Feb 2019, 11:35

@rv1974 said:

Fredo,
Maybe I as usual miss something but I thought it'd be a great improvement if there was an option to pull the grip and then input a number with +- with units abbreviation. Say +50cm.
And the tool would incrementally add 50cm in ordered direction.

It's difficult to do it in the VCB because FredOscale would not know if you talk about the scale factor or the dimension, and in absolute or relative term.

What you can do currently is

hover a handle
Press TAB
you get a dialog box where you the dimension(s), one, two or three fields depending on the active handle.

Since formulas are supported in the dimension fields you can modify the field and type "+50" or "+50cm".

Fredo

rv1974 · 19 Feb 2019, 08:43

FredoScale fails to pick up the right reference data when objects are deep in the context. When I, for experiment sake, pull the objects out of contect, the tool works smoothly. Was this problem discussed earlier?

fredo6 · 19 Feb 2019, 10:00

Yes. This is a bug which is on my list. This happens when you try to get the inference from an object which is another instance from the component you scale. My code for avoiding self-referencing need to be adjusted.

milenoliegsalz · 24 Feb 2019, 15:19

@rv1974 & @fredo6
I noticed that when you use "box stretching to target" (that is, when you double click the control boxes), Inferencing usually works fine... even with objects outside the group (nevertheless it would be nice if it would work without using "box stretching to target").

@fredo6
When I scale any components (with box stretching), Fredoscale makes it a unique component. This is reasonable when I just scale one component, but if I scale two or more of the same component and at the same time, it would be nice if they still stay as the same, and don't become unique.

Thanks for your hard work.

Greetings,
Mileno.

rv1974 · 25 Feb 2019, 12:34

@Mileno no help from double clicking on my end

rv1974 · 26 Feb 2019, 13:27

@rv1974 said:

@Mileno no help from double clicking on my end

Penny has dropped:
click black grip->then click 1st referece point->finally click 'where-to' point.
This way it works perfectly.
Thank you Fredo

nesh70 · 29 Mar 2019, 23:19

Hi!

I'm trying to bend a piano keyboard into a closed circle.

Is it possible to do using the Radial Bend tool?

I'm not figuring out what the target point is.

Thanks!

fredo6 · 30 Mar 2019, 15:34

@nesh70 said:

Hi!

I'm trying to bend a piano keyboard into a closed circle.

Is it possible to do using the Radial Bend tool?

I'm not figuring out what the target point is.

Thanks!

Not possible. Maximum is 180 degree, that is a U-turn

pbacot · 30 Mar 2019, 17:41

44 keys at time?

kubap · 26 Apr 2019, 08:34

This plugin is fantastic, it made my life so much easier. Thank you!

Is this a place where you can put a request?

Could you make snapping more like a native Sketchup scale tool? I mean, FredoScale/Stretch doesn't snap to lines outside the component and I think it doesn't snap to surfaces at all.
Would it be possible to Scale/Stretch by a specified additional lenght? For example if you want to stretch something so it's 20cm longer. Then instead of putting a scale factor you put +20 (or respectively -20 if you want to shorten it by 20cm).

fredo6 · 26 Apr 2019, 22:10

@kubap said:

Could you make snapping more like a native Sketchup scale tool? I mean, FredoScale/Stretch doesn't snap to lines outside the component and I think it doesn't snap to surfaces at all.

I'll look at it. This can probably be done, but I need to remember why I excluded them

Would it be possible to Scale/Stretch by a specified additional lenght? For example if you want to stretch something so it's 20cm longer. Then instead of putting a scale factor you put +20 (or respectively -20 if you want to shorten it by 20cm).[/quote]
The best is that you just hover the handle you wish to move, then type TAB. In the dialog box, you can type formulas, so add a "+20cm" at the end of the current value.

dtrachtman · 5 Jun 2019, 17:25

I want to bend a simple flat strip and every time I do, it ends up warped. I have watched the tutorial many times and think I am doing it exactly as shown. I am clicking on the endpoints exactly. What am I missing? See attached. thanks
Dan

theresacalabrese · 29 Aug 2019, 19:13

The signature is out of date

Dave R · 30 Aug 2019, 11:54

@theresacalabrese said:

The signature is out of date

To what signature are you referring? SketchUp says the signature is up to date:

ISAWHIM · 15 Sept 2019, 19:49

@kevsterman said:

Hi guys. I have another question regarding radial bend. As you can see from the image all of the lines denoting brickwork haven't bended as I was expecting. I'm not sure why. Is it a parameter problem or maybe something to do with the model? Its probably something really easy I'm missing

[attachment=0:1s1lyd44]Screenshot 2017-08-10 13.03.15.png[/attachment:1s1lyd44]

You need to split the horizontal lines into segments. The same would happen if you used a circle with only eight segments, it would transform into a funky shape, because the lines connect to the points, and only the points are relocated. (Eg, it will not curve a solid line, it just deforms the locations of the end-points.)

Thus, your windows where they are on the roof-line, that has three segments. The points are relocated, on a curve, and you get a three-segment curve. However, your horizontal lines for the "siding", only have two points, per line. So, the line just connects from point to point, left and right, with no curve on the line, to match the line where the window has broken the line into three segments. Just as you would add more segments to a circle to hide the fact that it is actually just a bunch of lines and angles, to create the illusion of a "curve".

Resolutions...

1: Break the line into a three-segment line, by adding a line with points aligned under the window, where the window points intersect that horizontal line of the roof.

2: For more realism, because that is a rather large curve, you should segment each line into 4-8 segments per line. That way, you will have full curves, retaining the "image/concept", of the original.

This is the reason that SketchUp has no deform tools. When done on simple lines, without adding more segments, you get undesired results. Just as when you attempt three-point perspective, by lowering the camera near the ground and looking up. It always "looks funny", because the building edges are all perfect lines from corner to corner, instead of having a "true curve", as a camera or your eyes see. That is why 3D rendered things, look like 3D rendered things, instead of looking like reality, unless you use post-work deforms or complex multi-segment lines. (As objects such as people have, but buildings normally do not. Adding to the oddity of displaying 3D objects.)

AISmebel · 10 Feb 2020, 12:36

Hello. Please tell me if you can use your plugins FredoScale and VisuHole so that the components do not lose contact with each other?
I do not use these plugin functions because the connection between the components is broken. This is very inconvenient for me and for many users using this plugin.

fredo6 · 10 Feb 2020, 12:58

@aismebel said:

Hello. Please tell me if you can use your plugins FredoScale and VisuHole so that the components do not lose contact with each other?

Application to other component instances is something I can try to manage for VisuHole and FredoScale stretch is some situations.

But be aware that this may not work, because, for instance, you could make a hole in 2 instances of the same component at different location.

That's why I make the instances unique in the general case.

Fredo