SketchUp 2019 release

pbacot · 16 Nov 2018, 17:02

@cl said:

Doesn't being bound by an NDA mean that even adding your vote here mean you have broken the NDA by acknowledging it's existence.

It's safe for anyone to assume there will be a 2019 version, based on the past. No one knows when it will come out.

ntxdave · 16 Nov 2018, 20:54

@pistol_peto said:

The last four releases were either on a Monday or a Tuesday... so most likely early next week?

Since there is a holiday next week in that U.S., I am guessing it will not be until at least the week after.

Dave R · 18 Nov 2018, 18:33

@derek edison said:

I see there was a maintenance release for MAC users on the 12th. Maybe that was it?

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That was an update for Mojave users.

pbacot · 19 Nov 2018, 04:35

@dave r said:

@derek edison said:

I see there was a maintenance release for MAC users on the 12th. Maybe that was it?

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That was an update for Mojave users.

I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.

Dave R · 19 Nov 2018, 11:13

@pbacot said:

I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.

Well, none of the earlier versions will be updated so if you update to Mojave and then have issues, you'll have to decide whether to go back to an earlier OS or update SketchUp. There seems to have been enough issues created by Mojave that they decided to put resources into updating SU2018 even this late in the cycle.

andybot · 19 Nov 2018, 17:17

I'm sooo feeling this! I am still using 2016 because of all my plugins. I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others, and for geolocate (which has been awful btw, since they can't use Google any more.)

@dtrarch said:

I updated to 2018 pro and what a PIA to re-install all the plugins.
Never bothered to install and use 2017 pro.
How about a real value update please

dtr Architect

pbacot · 19 Nov 2018, 17:19

@dave r said:

@pbacot said:

I wonder if that means if we go to Mojave we have to use v. 18 to avoid issues.

Well, none of the earlier versions will be updated so if you update to Mojave and then have issues, you'll have to decide whether to go back to an earlier OS or update SketchUp. There seems to have been enough issues created by Mojave that they decided to put resources into updating SU2018 even this late in the cycle.

Thanks. Yeah that sounds like an indication of the importance. I am on automatic update but have stayed in an older version for various reasons, partly for collaboration, and partly cause it ain't broke. Same with the OS.

juju · 19 Nov 2018, 17:45

@andybot said:

I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others...

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andybot · 19 Nov 2018, 20:14

Cool! I'm on the subscription, so it's not a big deal. It was more a comment about how completely underwhelming the last few version have been in terms of what I need for my day to day use.

@juju said:

@andybot said:

I have 2018 on a secondary machine, just so I can open 2018 files I get from others...

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juju · 20 Nov 2018, 13:43

How close / accurate should one expect annual releases to be to the definition of annual, ie. how much "grace" would be reasonable? Asking for a friend...

Pistol_Peto · 20 Nov 2018, 15:17

@juju said:

How close/accurate should one expect annual releases to be to the definition of annual, ie. how much "grace" would be reasonable? Asking for a friend...

I like the way Apple does it - you know in September they're going to release an iPhone. They announce the presentation date a few weeks out. In the presentation, they give the day everyone can order and when you'll receive it. It's always around the same time.

It would help if they announced a release date a month before releasing it.

thorleyian · 20 Nov 2018, 18:08

I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

ntxdave · 20 Nov 2018, 20:09

@thorleyian said:

I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays.

Pistol_Peto · 20 Nov 2018, 20:29

@ntxdave said:

@thorleyian said:

I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays.

My youthful exuberance is hoping today/tomorrow - but I like your guess better!

alpro · 21 Nov 2018, 14:10

@ntxdave said:

@thorleyian said:

I chose excited but not making a fuss about it, I imagine I’ll get labelled “evangelist” or something for that. I’d just call it quiet optimism.

I have a feeling today might be “the” day, with nothing to back up that theory though.

Agree with your first part but still betting on next so they do not have to have support staff on call during the Thanksgiving holidays.

Maybe they're going to blow our socks off with this release, don't think it's a support staff issue since they released a new version of Trimble Business Center (5.0) yesterday, which had major changes from 4.10 and I would think TBC requires a lot more support than Sketchup.

freebs · 21 Nov 2018, 16:39

@juju said:

CLICKBAIT! Just kidding...

Normally I would have seen a number of posts / threads related to the release of the latest version by this time, seeing that historically the new version is released somewhere in November (first half IIRC).

This year, I'm not seeing that. What are your thoughts on this?

I'm not holding my breath, but here's what I'd like to see:

I) FINALLY FIXING THE STUPID OUTLINER for one. I load in a halfway detailed CAD model to build a house from and, say, explode the input and if the outliner is showing, it will take 50x longer to get done as it struggles to update that window for every single change it makes to any geometry. Just. Why?

II) How about being able to search through the Layer manager by more than the first letter? Architects use layers and lots of them. Try selecting something and trying to set its layer to A-PORCH. There are about 100 A-somethingOrOther layer names in front of -PORCH but Sketchup only lets you type an A to get to that section and then scroll, scroll, scroll... I know, the program is waiting for VFB input, but why can't it wait for a shortcut for the $#@%-ing layer window's input and then switch to search mode? How about
[spacebar] A-POR and boom, it's highlighting the nearest match(es) for me to select?

III) There's an import for dwg in 'pro' mode sketchup but it can't handle text. Ugh. Every Window-label within a triangle is now just a little triangle. Go ahead and print me up a full copy of the CAD so that I can reference what should be in my imported file. Or, open Autocad in my second monitor and watch Autocad and Sketchup argue about where the cursor belongs. Honestly, it's 2018. 1998 is so... 1998.

In the interest of brevity, I'll stop now.

juju · 26 Nov 2018, 06:18

Well, so I renewed my maintenance without knowing what's coming / new, maintenance running out and all of that. I have faith in SketchUp, but to be honest, I have more faith in the many excellent extensions (and of course communities like this that keep me engaged).

david_h · 26 Nov 2018, 15:56

The one wish. . and it's just a little wish...that I have been asking for in SU since version 5th Century BC is the ability to edit a nested a component and only have the context of the next component in the tree hierarchy visible rather than the whole model. . .all or nothing. for example to edit a double hung window section-- to work on one frame in the context of the entire window component but not have the entire building model visible. Vous comprenez? or is there a Plugin that can do this ? Otherwise I take my component out of the model. Start a new model and re-insert. Irritating.

This would just be a great thing.

andybot · 26 Nov 2018, 17:11

oooh, that's a good idea! I wonder if there could be an isolation mode like in Blender?

@david_h said:

The one wish. . and it's just a little wish...that I have been asking for in SU since version 5th Century BC is the ability to edit a nested a component and only have the context of the next component in the tree hierarchy visible rather than the whole model. . .all or nothing. for example to edit a double hung window section-- to work on one frame in the context of the entire window component but not have the entire building model visible. Vous comprenez? or is there a Plugin that can do this ? Otherwise I take my component out of the model. Start a new model and re-insert. Irritating.

This would just be a great thing.

ntxdave · 26 Nov 2018, 18:02

Anyone else get a Cyber Monday promotional email about Sketchup?

Two things interesting:

I already have a 2018 Pro license and have already paid the annual maintenance fee. Why did I get the email.
Seems to be a message that 2019 may not be coming out all that soon (otherwise why a promotion for 2018)