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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      When you export a 2d DWG/DXF it is always in inches [SketchUp's built-in units].
      When you export a 3d version it is set up in the model-units.

      If you use imperial [inches] it doesn't matter with your exports when the recipient is using inches too.
      BUT with 2d it messes up metric users...
      So this explains the 2.54 scaling issue.

      So either export as 3d. or scale a copy of the metric SKP down to suit (1/2.54) and use 2d export on that ?

      TIG

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      • Joe WoodJ Offline
        Joe Wood
        last edited by

        Tig do you mean set the camera to perspective then export?

        geeze how do I scale a model to 1/2.54 ? Won't that mess up the on screen dimensions on the dwg file?

        Joe Wood
        woodsshop.com/

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          No, don't use 'perspective'.
          Just use an orthogonal view, with NO perspective.

          Then the 2d/3d versions are all but equivalent, but the units are sorted properly in 3d.

          I see what you mean about any dimensions changing when scaling...

          I therefore recommend exporting as the 3d version, or tell the recipient to scale down in the 2d CAD version by 1/2.54 etc...
          In the CAD version the dims should be unaffected ?

          TIG

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          • Joe WoodJ Offline
            Joe Wood
            last edited by

            sorry Tig but I don't understand "exporting as the 3d version".

            Joe Wood
            woodsshop.com/

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            • BepB Offline
              Bep
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              2017-12-21 21_29_26-joe.dwg - pCon.planner (64 bit).png

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              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                Joe Wood
                last edited by

                That didn't work, it created a top view of the whole model?


                3d dwg.png

                Joe Wood
                woodsshop.com/

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                • Joe WoodJ Offline
                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  How about this, I Edited all the dimensions but kept them at cm, then I changed the Model Units back to inches and exported a 2d dwg?

                  I measure these with P Con and looks good to me?


                  France 2.dwg

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    And LayOut can't do it?

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      @joe wood said:

                      I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                      Joe, that's like saying you own one of these but the only feature you use is the slot mortiser.

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                      • Joe WoodJ Offline
                        Joe Wood
                        last edited by

                        I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                        but I'm trying it right now!

                        in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                        Joe Wood
                        woodsshop.com/

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                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                          in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            @joe wood said:

                            yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                            in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                            You can export a DWG from LayOut. LayOut makes it easier to display the views of your model and its parts. You can add dimensions in LO if needed and generate PDFs with properly scaled views.

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                            • pbacotP Offline
                              pbacot
                              last edited by

                              @joe wood said:

                              yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                              in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                              No, I mean to use the LayOut dwg export. Actually I don't know. I use it in some limited fashion in Imperial. I get weird results tryin it in cm. If you need dwg files, I guess SU isn't the way.

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                Joe Wood
                                last edited by

                                I'd rather find out what my dwg export issue is fellas.

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  @joe wood said:

                                  I'd rather find out what my dwg export issue is fellas.

                                  From what I've read in this thread, you've been told what you export issue is.

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                                  • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                    Joe Wood
                                    last edited by

                                    I must have missed it Dave, does this dwg resolve it? All the measurements read correct for me?


                                    France 2.dwg

                                    Joe Wood
                                    woodsshop.com/

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                                    • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      If the solution is using Layout, can someone point me to a Tut showing how to set it up for drawings like these? I tried last night but only got as far as the initial paper sizes, and none seemed to fit my drawing?

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                      • pbacotP Offline
                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by

                                        @joe wood said:

                                        I must have missed it Dave, does this dwg resolve it? All the measurements read correct for me?

                                        To me that comes out of scale. Off by some factor less than 3. I guess it's what TIG said. Scale by 2.54.

                                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                        • Joe WoodJ Offline
                                          Joe Wood
                                          last edited by

                                          How do I scale the whole model, so I can export this dwg correctly?

                                          I asked if he could scale on his end, and he said-
                                          "This scale (1/2,54) does not exist, it is a scale of your drawing relative to the filling to the size of your screen.... or else it is: 1/1;1/2;1/5;1/5;1/10;1/20;1/25;1/50;1/100;1/150 Etc.............

                                          But that doesn't change anything! whatever the chosen scale the measurements do not change since they are taken on the drawing at 1/1 scale which is the dimension of creation of your drawing. The scale is only used for viewing or printing."

                                          Joe Wood
                                          woodsshop.com/

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
                                            last edited by

                                            You have to scale in the CAD version (not in terms of "drawing scale" but in terms of selecting everything and making it larger.)

                                            I wish I understood what is happening.

                                            Here's what. If I open in PowerCADD and just open it as feet and inches. It's OK if, after I make the file I THEN change the units to cm.

                                            If I set the units as cm at import, the scale is off 2.54. then enlarging the drawing will give the correct scaling in cm.

                                            Try this one that I resaved in cm.


                                            France 2pb.DWG

                                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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