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    DWG Files Not Scale Says Client

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    • Joe WoodJ
      Joe Wood
      last edited by

      I asked him what program he uses to read the dwg-

      I use "Data Transporter", but it's probably adapted to my native format "3dxx".

      Joe Wood
      woodsshop.com/

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      • pbacotP
        pbacot
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        Have you opened the dwg file yourself? Send it to a third party for checking. Sounds like he is not using AutoCAD so you should be sure it's not actually his doing. Maybe at some point meters are being used instead of cm.

        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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        • Joe WoodJ
          Joe Wood
          last edited by

          I included the dwg in my last post, I never use dwg so not sure how I can measure a dwg.

          Joe Wood
          woodsshop.com/

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          • BepB
            Bep
            last edited by

            Goodday Joe,

            The drawing is scaled 1:2,54 see point 2
            As you see i scaled it a factor 2.54 to get the dimensions right
            There is a smal error 0.03mm at point 1, you have to zoom in very close.
            I use the(free) pCon.planner http://pcon-planner.com/en/download/ or Draftsight https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/ software to use a .DWG


            2017-12-21 18_22_02-Rafter Details.dwg (alleen lezen) - pCon.planner (64 bit).png


            2017-12-21 18_22_02-Rafter Details.dwg (alleen lezen) - pCon.planner (64 bit).png

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            • Joe WoodJ
              Joe Wood
              last edited by

              Goodday to you Bep!

              so what is wrong with my export to give that scale? I have dwg export set to full sized scale?

              Or is the skp model scale set wrongly?

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • pbacotP
                pbacot
                last edited by

                I see. I opened in PowerCADD and at 1:2 scale, yes it is out of scale. My result is the dimensions are less than half of what they should be.

                Not being familiar with your drawing (what scale it would be normally presented in) and metric drawings in general, it's hard for me to analyze what is going on as I would with a feet/ inches import.

                I think you have to review your export process. You need to have some software to check your exports with.

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                • Joe WoodJ
                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  Darn, well I usually work in inches feet, but changed this model to metric cm.

                  The model is too big to post, how else can we figure this out?

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • BepB
                    Bep
                    last edited by

                    Probably someone with more experience in Layout can help you out here.
                    I suspect it has something to do with the settings in Layout versus Sketchup.

                    "History is written by the winners"

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                    • Joe WoodJ
                      Joe Wood
                      last edited by

                      I'm not using layout, just exporting the dwg files.

                      strange as I get things cut by CNC using my dwg files and they always come out perfectly. I'm always using Imperial though and not metric in the model Units.

                      Joe Wood
                      woodsshop.com/

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                      • TIGT
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        When you export a 2d DWG/DXF it is always in inches [SketchUp's built-in units].
                        When you export a 3d version it is set up in the model-units.

                        If you use imperial [inches] it doesn't matter with your exports when the recipient is using inches too.
                        BUT with 2d it messes up metric users...
                        So this explains the 2.54 scaling issue.

                        So either export as 3d. or scale a copy of the metric SKP down to suit (1/2.54) and use 2d export on that ?

                        TIG

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                        • Joe WoodJ
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          Tig do you mean set the camera to perspective then export?

                          geeze how do I scale a model to 1/2.54 ? Won't that mess up the on screen dimensions on the dwg file?

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • TIGT
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            No, don't use 'perspective'.
                            Just use an orthogonal view, with NO perspective.

                            Then the 2d/3d versions are all but equivalent, but the units are sorted properly in 3d.

                            I see what you mean about any dimensions changing when scaling...

                            I therefore recommend exporting as the 3d version, or tell the recipient to scale down in the 2d CAD version by 1/2.54 etc...
                            In the CAD version the dims should be unaffected ?

                            TIG

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                            • Joe WoodJ
                              Joe Wood
                              last edited by

                              sorry Tig but I don't understand "exporting as the 3d version".

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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                              • BepB
                                Bep
                                last edited by

                                2017-12-21 21_29_26-joe.dwg - pCon.planner (64 bit).png

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                                • Joe WoodJ
                                  Joe Wood
                                  last edited by

                                  That didn't work, it created a top view of the whole model?


                                  3d dwg.png

                                  Joe Wood
                                  woodsshop.com/

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                                  • Joe WoodJ
                                    Joe Wood
                                    last edited by

                                    How about this, I Edited all the dimensions but kept them at cm, then I changed the Model Units back to inches and exported a 2d dwg?

                                    I measure these with P Con and looks good to me?


                                    France 2.dwg

                                    Joe Wood
                                    woodsshop.com/

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                                    • pbacotP
                                      pbacot
                                      last edited by

                                      And LayOut can't do it?

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      • Dave RD
                                        Dave R
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                                        @joe wood said:

                                        I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                                        Joe, that's like saying you own one of these but the only feature you use is the slot mortiser.

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                                        • Joe WoodJ
                                          Joe Wood
                                          last edited by

                                          I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                                          but I'm trying it right now!

                                          in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                          Joe Wood
                                          woodsshop.com/

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                                          • Joe WoodJ
                                            Joe Wood
                                            last edited by

                                            yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                                            in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                            Joe Wood
                                            woodsshop.com/

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