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    • Joe WoodJ
      Joe Wood
      last edited by

      I included the dwg in my last post, I never use dwg so not sure how I can measure a dwg.

      Joe Wood
      woodsshop.com/

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      • BepB
        Bep
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        Goodday Joe,

        The drawing is scaled 1:2,54 see point 2
        As you see i scaled it a factor 2.54 to get the dimensions right
        There is a smal error 0.03mm at point 1, you have to zoom in very close.
        I use the(free) pCon.planner http://pcon-planner.com/en/download/ or Draftsight https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/ software to use a .DWG


        2017-12-21 18_22_02-Rafter Details.dwg (alleen lezen) - pCon.planner (64 bit).png


        2017-12-21 18_22_02-Rafter Details.dwg (alleen lezen) - pCon.planner (64 bit).png

        "History is written by the winners"

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        • Joe WoodJ
          Joe Wood
          last edited by

          Goodday to you Bep!

          so what is wrong with my export to give that scale? I have dwg export set to full sized scale?

          Or is the skp model scale set wrongly?

          Joe Wood
          woodsshop.com/

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          • pbacotP
            pbacot
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            I see. I opened in PowerCADD and at 1:2 scale, yes it is out of scale. My result is the dimensions are less than half of what they should be.

            Not being familiar with your drawing (what scale it would be normally presented in) and metric drawings in general, it's hard for me to analyze what is going on as I would with a feet/ inches import.

            I think you have to review your export process. You need to have some software to check your exports with.

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • Joe WoodJ
              Joe Wood
              last edited by

              Darn, well I usually work in inches feet, but changed this model to metric cm.

              The model is too big to post, how else can we figure this out?

              Joe Wood
              woodsshop.com/

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              • BepB
                Bep
                last edited by

                Probably someone with more experience in Layout can help you out here.
                I suspect it has something to do with the settings in Layout versus Sketchup.

                "History is written by the winners"

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                • Joe WoodJ
                  Joe Wood
                  last edited by

                  I'm not using layout, just exporting the dwg files.

                  strange as I get things cut by CNC using my dwg files and they always come out perfectly. I'm always using Imperial though and not metric in the model Units.

                  Joe Wood
                  woodsshop.com/

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                  • TIGT
                    TIG Moderator
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                    When you export a 2d DWG/DXF it is always in inches [SketchUp's built-in units].
                    When you export a 3d version it is set up in the model-units.

                    If you use imperial [inches] it doesn't matter with your exports when the recipient is using inches too.
                    BUT with 2d it messes up metric users...
                    So this explains the 2.54 scaling issue.

                    So either export as 3d. or scale a copy of the metric SKP down to suit (1/2.54) and use 2d export on that ?

                    TIG

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                    • Joe WoodJ
                      Joe Wood
                      last edited by

                      Tig do you mean set the camera to perspective then export?

                      geeze how do I scale a model to 1/2.54 ? Won't that mess up the on screen dimensions on the dwg file?

                      Joe Wood
                      woodsshop.com/

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                      • TIGT
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        No, don't use 'perspective'.
                        Just use an orthogonal view, with NO perspective.

                        Then the 2d/3d versions are all but equivalent, but the units are sorted properly in 3d.

                        I see what you mean about any dimensions changing when scaling...

                        I therefore recommend exporting as the 3d version, or tell the recipient to scale down in the 2d CAD version by 1/2.54 etc...
                        In the CAD version the dims should be unaffected ?

                        TIG

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                        • Joe WoodJ
                          Joe Wood
                          last edited by

                          sorry Tig but I don't understand "exporting as the 3d version".

                          Joe Wood
                          woodsshop.com/

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                          • BepB
                            Bep
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                            2017-12-21 21_29_26-joe.dwg - pCon.planner (64 bit).png

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                            • Joe WoodJ
                              Joe Wood
                              last edited by

                              That didn't work, it created a top view of the whole model?


                              3d dwg.png

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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                              • Joe WoodJ
                                Joe Wood
                                last edited by

                                How about this, I Edited all the dimensions but kept them at cm, then I changed the Model Units back to inches and exported a 2d dwg?

                                I measure these with P Con and looks good to me?


                                France 2.dwg

                                Joe Wood
                                woodsshop.com/

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                                • pbacotP
                                  pbacot
                                  last edited by

                                  And LayOut can't do it?

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • Dave RD
                                    Dave R
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                                    @joe wood said:

                                    I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                                    Joe, that's like saying you own one of these but the only feature you use is the slot mortiser.

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                                    • Joe WoodJ
                                      Joe Wood
                                      last edited by

                                      I've never used Layout I'm hard core native tool SUpper!

                                      but I'm trying it right now!

                                      in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                      Joe Wood
                                      woodsshop.com/

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                                      • Joe WoodJ
                                        Joe Wood
                                        last edited by

                                        yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                                        in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                        Joe Wood
                                        woodsshop.com/

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                                        • Dave RD
                                          Dave R
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                                          @joe wood said:

                                          yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                                          in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                          You can export a DWG from LayOut. LayOut makes it easier to display the views of your model and its parts. You can add dimensions in LO if needed and generate PDFs with properly scaled views.

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                                          • pbacotP
                                            pbacot
                                            last edited by

                                            @joe wood said:

                                            yeah you're right but that's all I've ever needed out of SUp just the basic tools.

                                            in Layout is it a dwg and can he measure the endpoints Etc?

                                            No, I mean to use the LayOut dwg export. Actually I don't know. I use it in some limited fashion in Imperial. I get weird results tryin it in cm. If you need dwg files, I guess SU isn't the way.

                                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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