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    Pixero
    last edited by 29 Aug 2017, 17:25

    A new version of round corner with all quads and an on/off switch (like subD has) would help tremendously.

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      fredo6
      last edited by 30 Aug 2017, 08:16

      @datakash said:

      Round Corner has minor problems with rendering. Subdivision is much smoother.
      Subdivision can be turned off and mesh corrected.

      That's interesting! and it would be useful to understand why?

      • Is it because the rounding is circular?
      • or too regular?
      • of for other reasons related to the Rendering parameters

      @tuna1957 said:

      Fredo, Agree with you that SubD to get round corners may not be the preferred approach for everybody. Referring back to DATAKASH's posts, I think the main point of DATAKASH'S request was to be able to use your Roundcorner plugin to help build the mesh in their proxy model prior to running SubD. I honestly don't know the first thing about writing these plug ins and really don't know if this is something that could be implemented into Roundcorner

      What I see from DATAKASH examples (and yours), is that the shape should first be 'quadified' and have consistent 'loops'.
      Can QuadFaceTools do this automatically, including when there are holes in faces?

      For instance, this shape...

      SubDiv Q4.png

      ...should first be 'quadified'...

      SubDiv Q5.png

      ...and then, I guess this makes it easier to construct the offset control mesh.

      SubDiv Q6.png

      @pixero said:

      A new version of round corner with all quads and an on/off switch (like subD has) would help tremendously.

      Corners made of quads, as opposed to triangles (for tri-border corners) are possible. However, even in orthogonal cases, each quad may be triangulated. So this increases the number of facets.

      SubDiv Q7.png

      For a Proxy of RoundCorner, this is independent. Actually, any script doing an object transformation could (or should) have a proxy to enable / disable. Sketchup does not provide a standard method for that, so I guess it has to be simulated, via copy, invisible layers or simply parameterization.

      Fredo

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        Pixero
        last edited by 30 Aug 2017, 13:38

        @fredo6 said:

        Corners made of quads, as opposed to triangles (for tri-border corners) are possible. However, even in orthogonal cases, each quad may be triangulated. So this increases the number of facets.

        But it would make it possible to texture better with UV's as for example QuadFaceTools can interpret pairs of those triangles as a quad.

        @fredo6 said:

        For a Proxy of RoundCorner, this is independent. Actually, any script doing an object transformation could (or should) have a proxy to enable / disable. Sketchup does not provide a standard method for that, so I guess it has to be simulated, via copy, invisible layers or simply parameterization.

        Fredo

        Maybe you could check with Thomthom how he does it in SubD?
        When I have thought about this I was thinking of saving the original geometry information in an attribute, but that is perhaps a bad idea?
        Or how does a modify stack work in for example Max?
        I'm sure a system for history would benifit a lot of SU plugins.
        If it would be possible with a on/off switch it would be a great addition to SU. 👍

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          DATAKASH
          last edited by 31 Aug 2017, 06:13

          @fredo6 said:

          @datakash said:

          Round Corner has minor problems with rendering. Subdivision is much smoother.
          Subdivision can be turned off and mesh corrected.

          That's interesting! and it would be useful to understand why?

          • Is it because the rounding is circular?
          • or too regular?
          • of for other reasons related to the Rendering parameters

          I think this is due to the fact that subdivision affects the whole object
          And yes, his grid is also triangulated.

          As I see, creating offset by selecting each face manually
          (If this is a reasonable solution?)


          subd.png


          select-edge.png

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            fredo6
            last edited by 31 Aug 2017, 11:47

            What I see at least as a true difference is that, with SubDivision, the edges and corners are not rounded with circle (as in RoundCorner), but with other types of curves (Catmull-Clark splines). So the transition for the flat part to the rounding is different.

            The other difference in your example is that the flat face is also 'quadified' with co-planar facets, triangular. So here too, for rendering there may a difference between this set of facets versus a single big face, even if geometrically, the two situations are identical.

            I don't know if anyone has some opinions on all this, in relation with renering.

            Fredo

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              Pixero
              last edited by 31 Aug 2017, 13:40

              Maybe this thinking is applicable?
              https://hackernoon.com/apples-icons-have-that-shape-for-a-very-good-reason-720d4e7c8a14

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                fredo6
                last edited by 2 Sept 2017, 09:05

                Pixero,

                Interesting indeed.

                I made a few trials, which are illustrated in the attached model (SU2015), with 6 types of rounding, each generated with 6 segments. I also made a quick rendering with Thea.

                Could any one advise on what is the 'best' for Rendering.

                Thanks

                Fredo

                Iphone Rounding.png

                Corner iphone blue.png

                Corner iphone.skp

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                • kimi kimiK Offline
                  kimi kimi
                  last edited by 2 Sept 2017, 11:34

                  Hi Fredo, hi everyone,
                  I made an update to my Round Corner plugin this morning, and now I can't see the toolbar with all the options when I activate the command. Is this a problem only on my computer, or does someone else have it too?
                  As you can see on screenshot, the command is active, there is text in bottom left and right, but I don't see the toolbar. I tried erasing it, erasing and reinstalling Fredo6 library, but still same result.


                  Screenshot 2017-09-02 13.04.12.png

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                    Pixero
                    last edited by 2 Sept 2017, 13:45

                    @fredo:

                    Thats a tough one... not number 2 or 2,5 but the rest I have a hard time deciding which look best when rendered. Maybe if you commented on what the difference between them are?

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                      fredo6
                      last edited by 2 Sept 2017, 14:33

                      @kimi kimi said:

                      Hi Fredo, hi everyone,
                      I made an update to my Round Corner plugin this morning, and now I can't see the toolbar with all the options when I activate the command. Is this a problem only on my computer, or does someone else have it too?
                      As you can see on screenshot, the command is active, there is text in bottom left and right, but I don't see the toolbar. I tried erasing it, erasing and reinstalling Fredo6 library, but still same result.

                      Could you open the RUBY console and advise on any error message you would observe.

                      Thanks

                      Fredo

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                        fredo6
                        last edited by 2 Sept 2017, 14:37

                        @pixero said:

                        @fredo:

                        Thats a tough one... not number 2 or 2,5 but the rest I have a hard time deciding which look best when rendered. Maybe if you commented on what the difference between them are?

                        The number is a factor of blending between a circle and a square (Squircle or super-circle).

                        • 2 is a pure circle
                        • 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6 are blended curve, the higher the number, the closer to a square.

                        I least I witness that you think a squircle is better than a pure circular profile for rendering.

                        Since another common utilisation of RoundCorner is for 3D-printing, it remains to be decided if this is also the case.

                        Fredo

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                        • kimi kimiK Offline
                          kimi kimi
                          last edited by 4 Sept 2017, 11:13

                          @fredo6 said:

                          @kimi kimi said:

                          Hi Fredo, hi everyone,
                          I made an update to my Round Corner plugin this morning, and now I can't see the toolbar with all the options when I activate the command. Is this a problem only on my computer, or does someone else have it too?
                          As you can see on screenshot, the command is active, there is text in bottom left and right, but I don't see the toolbar. I tried erasing it, erasing and reinstalling Fredo6 library, but still same result.

                          Could you open the RUBY console and advise on any error message you would observe.

                          Thanks

                          Fredo

                          Thanks for your response,
                          I'm not sure what to look for in Ruby Console, so I just copied text from it.
                          I suppose this might point to something.
                          Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `view_line_width=' for G6:Module>


                          round corner ruby console.txt

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 4 Sept 2017, 12:32

                            @kimi kimi

                            Simple. You need to upgrade LibFredo6 to the latest version (v7.7c).

                            Fredo

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                              CREAIMMO
                              last edited by 7 Sept 2017, 09:33

                              Bonjour,

                              Merci pour Roundcorner, c'est un plugin sympa.

                              Est ce qu'il serait possible dans une futur mise a jour de prévoir des chanfreins avec 2 cotes différentes

                              que x soit different de Y

                              actuellement si je donne une valeur de chanfrein de 1mm il va faire 1 mm de chque coté de l'arrete principale

                              sauf que j'aimerai que l'on puisse choisir 1mm en y et 0,5mm en x exemple

                              Cordialement
                              creaimmo

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                                fredo6
                                last edited by 8 Sept 2017, 17:45

                                @creaimmo said:

                                Est ce qu'il serait possible dans une futur mise a jour de prévoir des chanfreins avec 2 cotes différentes

                                Asymmetric rounding is indeed an interesting features, requested by very few users however. With the current approach of RoundCorner, would be a little bit difficult. So It will have to wait for a full refresh.

                                Fredo

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                                  countercharge
                                  last edited by 27 Sept 2017, 18:02

                                  Hi, sorry for the noob question but I've installed this plugin and even after reading the documentation I can't figure out how to use it. I don't see any way to bring up the interface after selecting the edge I want to round.. nothing in the toolbar, nothing in the menu. The plugin is enabled but I'm totally at a loss as to how to use it.

                                  edit: nevermind, the interface showed up

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                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by 27 Sept 2017, 20:33

                                    @countercharge said:

                                    edit: nevermind, the interface showed up

                                    Did you identify what was the problem (in case this happens to other users)?

                                    Fredo

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                                      countercharge
                                      last edited by 28 Sept 2017, 15:52

                                      @fredo6 said:

                                      @countercharge said:

                                      edit: nevermind, the interface showed up

                                      Did you identify what was the problem (in case this happens to other users)?

                                      Fredo

                                      I did not, but I think it appeared when I closed and re-opened sketchup. I assumed it would load once the plugin was loaded and enabled.

                                      Loving it so far but I can't figure out how to round edges that are on the inside/interior of an object. If I try to do that, it covers the opening. I'm sure that's somewhere in this long thread.. any idea what page to look at?

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                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by 28 Sept 2017, 16:21

                                        @countercharge said:

                                        Loving it so far but I can't figure out how to round edges that are on the inside/interior of an object. If I try to do that, it covers the opening. I'm sure that's somewhere in this long thread.. any idea what page to look at?

                                        Just erase the cover face(s). The rounding is underneath.

                                        Fredo

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                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by 25 Oct 2017, 14:08

                                          NEW RELEASE: RoundCorner v3.2e - 25 Oct 17

                                          RoundCorner 3.2e is a maintenance release. It fixes a weird issue on French platforms, preventing the plugin to launch (in relation with decimal separator differences)..


                                          Home Page of RoundCorner for information and Download.

                                          Main post of this thread.

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