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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      Best is build your own from trees without shadow! 😉

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • Rich O BrienR Offline
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        SketchUp can only cast shadows from geometry.

        To make transparent images cast the correct shadow you need to trace around them.

        Or use TIG's Image Trimmer to do it.

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        • srxS Offline
          srx
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          Search "scf deciduous trees" in 3dwarehouse...

          www.saurus.rs

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          • EdsonE Offline
            Edson
            last edited by

            @rich o brien said:

            SketchUp can only cast shadows from geometry.

            To make transparent images cast the correct shadow you need to trace around them.

            Or use TIG's Image Trimmer to do it.

            it does not seem to work with 2017. anyway, what would be the suggested workflow? import a png, select it and run Image Trimmer? nothing happens when I do that.

            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
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              As far as I know my ImageTrimmer [part of SKMtools] works in v2017.
              I've not tested it on a v2017 MAC though.

              You must have Java installed and enabled and all .jar files must be set to execute in Java - some compression apps hijack the extension and stop them executing...

              You then need a PNG image with a transparent [alpha] layer.
              I'd 'flatten' it to remove all transparency, then add back the alpha layer, and select the 'background' color[s] using a magic-wand and <delete> it...
              You should now have a PNG Image to import that has a transparent 'background'.
              Note that everything you want to keep must have no transparency.
              Every pixel that has any transparency is ignored.

              Crop the PNG as tightly as possible, to minimize the transparent 'background' area, because every pixel will be considered, even when it'll be ignored !

              You select the Image and run the tool, after a few prompts it should end up being a 'cut-out' component, you can then add a face-me behavior etc to it...

              Post an example PNG and I can show you ??

              TIG

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              • srxS Offline
                srx
                last edited by

                https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/search.html?q=scf%20deciduous%20trees%26amp;backendClass=both

                www.saurus.rs

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  @tig said:

                  As far as I know my ImageTrimmer [part of SKMtools] works in v2017.
                  I've not tested it on a v2017 MAC though.

                  You must have Java installed and enabled and all .jar files must be set to execute in Java - some compression apps hijack the extension and stop them executing...

                  You then need a PNG image with a transparent [alpha] layer.
                  I'd 'flatten' it to remove all transparency, then add back the alpha layer, and select the 'background' color[s] using a magic-wand and <delete> it...
                  You should now have a PNG Image to import that has a transparent 'background'.
                  Note that everything you want to keep must have no transparency.
                  Every pixel that has any transparency is ignored.

                  Crop the PNG as tightly as possible, to minimize the transparent 'background' area, because every pixel will be considered, even when it'll be ignored !

                  You select the Image and run the tool, after a few prompts it should end up being a 'cut-out' component, you can then add a face-me behavior etc to it...

                  Post an example PNG and I can show you ??

                  thanks, TIG. please find a png atached.


                  PNG TREES_00001.png

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • EdsonE Offline
                    Edson
                    last edited by

                    @srx said:

                    https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/search.html?q=scf%20deciduous%20trees%26amp;backendClass=both

                    thanks a lot! those are very good trees for what I need.

                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
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                      The main issue with your tree PNG is that it isn't tightly cropped to the desired pixels, and lots of the leaf pixels have some transparency - so ill be ignored too.
                      The simple solution was to remove the transparency layer [aka 'flatten' the image], add back a new transparency layer, then use a magic-wand to select the background and delete it.
                      After a little tidying up of a few wayward pixels we have a suitable PNG.
                      It does take a while to trim as it is a very complex shape...

                      I'll post it once it's done...

                      TIG

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Try this...


                        FaceMeTree.skp

                        TIG

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                        • EdsonE Offline
                          Edson
                          last edited by

                          TIG,

                          thanks very much for the trimmed tree.

                          however, I am still in the dark as to how to do it. would you mind giving me a few tips on how to do it exactly?

                          please, see the image below. it is from a png as it opened in Photoshop. there is just one layer and the background is already transparent. so how can I "remove the transparency layer"? and then how can I add a transparency layer? removing pixels with the magic wand is easy enough.

                          then, considering I was able to do it correctly, is it enough to just import it as an image and run Image Trimmer?

                          best regards.
                          Screenshot 2017-05-31 14.43.47.png

                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                          • filibisF Offline
                            filibis
                            last edited by

                            That grey & white checker indicates that those areas are transparent. So you are good to go with that image and try Trimmer in SketchUp.

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                            • EdsonE Offline
                              Edson
                              last edited by

                              @filibis said:

                              That grey & white checker indicates that those areas are transparent. So you are good to go with that image and try Trimmer in SketchUp.

                              I think it is not working in 2017 for mac. every time I tried it it crashed Sketchup.

                              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                              • filibisF Offline
                                filibis
                                last edited by

                                It's not just you, SketchUp didn't respond for me as well. So, i think there needs to be more simplified selection needed (smooth) which means you're going to lose some leaf details.
                                Here i got this result (11312 entities) with attached 'simplified tree'. I believe you can refine selection to get more leaf detail without adding more entity.

                                tree_shadow.JPG

                                Simplified tree

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                                • chippwaltersC Offline
                                  chippwalters
                                  last edited by

                                  Good tip. Thanks for sharing.

                                  Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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