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    garydorn
    last edited by 22 Feb 2016, 01:04

    part of the difficulty I am finding is working out where to put the lines.

    This post by Rich O'Brien shows an interesting position of line around the front corner. Also it is a 427

    @rich o brien said:

    [edg3d:3htxz53g]6dOQrvWoC7Uy1vP[/edg3d:3htxz53g]


    This is my effort so far.


    real 289 - front right corner  This is the required look.

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      garydorn
      last edited by 22 Feb 2016, 10:34

      I've re-jigged the wire frame such that follows more closely the Quads format - but still have some 3 sided and 5 side edges to sort out.


      ![wire frame as "quads"](/uploads/imported_attachments/X6DP_wireframe.png "wire frame as "quads"")


      wire frame now with triangulated surfaces


      I am having a bit of trouble with the cockpit shoulder

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        garydorn
        last edited by 23 Feb 2016, 03:19

        smoothed body with wire wheelsIve now divided and grouped the various sections - nose, hood, fender, side, rear, and smoothed each surface,
        also added some wire wheels from 3D warehouse .

        junction of front hose/hood light still sorting out.


        update to front nose to light transition


        shelby collectable nose -light transition

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          garydorn
          last edited by 23 Feb 2016, 05:49

          Just because I can - I've exported the SU model to DWG - edges, faces geometry.

          Then I imported into Boa - an Architecture solids modeller that only uses a 6 sided block. (every face has 4 edges ) http://boa-research.fr

          In Boa I then started to insert a 3mm thick solid block over the mesh. Because the 4 corners a not in a flat plane the last point shows up how far it is out.

          Boa can also do a 3 edge face, by automatically dividing the face into 3 equal blocks - so I gave that a try also.

          Eventually Im interested to see how the Quad faces align with each when comparing my hand/eye construction with the Quadface and SubD tools.


          Boa - solids over mesh


          Boa - tri face solid over mesh

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            garydorn
            last edited by 24 Feb 2016, 03:19

            After doing some more online reading of quads and subs , I've reduced the number of mesh on bonnet and boot lid, and then opening up my trial version of SU 2013 and downloading artisan, contour maker , slicer and Topo shaper, I tried each to see what happened.

            Apart from the wheel archs - which have been smoothed too much, and the centre line of hood being not flat enough, Artisans version its getting pretty close.

            Slicer with y and Z set to 150mm created some profiles. For some reason X said nothing to create!

            Contour maker set at 50mm greeting an interesting shape

            Topo shaper I guess is for terrains - although if you want to have a car cover - its may well be the tool to do the job!


            artisan version of body


            slicers Y and Z profiles


            contours @ 50mm


            toposhaper - a draped mesh?

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              garydorn
              last edited by 24 Feb 2016, 03:23

              Here is the SU files - saved as SU6 from SU 13 trial version

              Mos tof the modelling has been done in SU 6 - with some touch ups/adjustments in SU 13


              sketchUp 6 file of 260/289 body WIR

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                ely862me
                last edited by 24 Feb 2016, 08:44

                You are on the right path, don't get drown at the shore.
                I have retouched the shape overall and made it compatible with SubD.
                About an hour and a half worked on it(it still needs a couple of touches here and there).. boy I miss car modeling !!
                289 SU 6 body V3-1.jpg


                289 SU 6 body V3 1.jpg


                289 SU 6 body V3 2.jpg


                289 SU 6 body V3 3.jpg


                289 SU 6 body V3 4.jpg


                289 SU 6 body V3 5.jpg


                surface test.jpg


                surface test 1.jpg

                Elisei (sketchupper)


                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                  garydorn
                  last edited by 25 Feb 2016, 02:11

                  wow

                  I've downloaded your file posted on the SubD chat.http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=137307

                  I am curious,
                  for the front wheel to fender transition you carried the wheel flare loop all the way across under the front to the other wheel.
                  is that a deliberate mesh strategy.

                  front wheel flare continuouse loop

                  The rear hip line has a nice flow.

                  hip lines

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                    ely862me
                    last edited by 25 Feb 2016, 08:30

                    @garydorn said:

                    wow

                    I am curious,
                    for the front wheel to fender transition you carried the wheel flare loop all the way across under the front to the other wheel.
                    is that a deliberate mesh strategy.

                    Yes, it is a bit of a strategy as it is good to have continuous loops. You can end the detail somewhere near the other loop, but it will break the surface a bit and I don't like triangles.


                    289 SU 6 body V3 for subd 1.jpg


                    289 SU 6 body V3 for subd 2.jpg

                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                      Mike Amos
                      last edited by 25 Feb 2016, 22:23

                      Elisei, nicely done Sir, quite brilliant in fact.

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                        garydorn
                        last edited by 28 Feb 2016, 15:07

                        For reference , there a number of photos of wooden bucks there were supposedly originally used to hammer out aluminium skins for these bodies.

                        https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ba/3a/38/ba3a387825743e2ced2f1388fb723330.jpg

                        https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8032/8051605973_1bed2902ce_b.jpg

                        http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/data/500/1412470_318783218259863_98733977_o.jpg

                        https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11046579_402587893199542_8233608334097962867_n.jpg?oh=f4138a388b2bc2d77557398118e9e783&oe=576DE8E3

                        https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/11110_393631437428521_6918278704604256187_n.jpg?oh=d2ad79659ac9547b0d55b32dcd65b4e4&oe=5754D12D

                        https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/v/t1.0-9/1239866_262077007250632_2124446986_n.jpg?oh=07280724279d0e108897f8d8f9108f30&oe=5753B477

                        credit to original photographers.
                        https://www.facebook.com/TeamAC/photos_stream

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                          garydorn
                          last edited by 28 Feb 2016, 15:09

                          Looking closer at these wooden bucks , and you can see the 'Quads" all over the place!

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                            garydorn
                            last edited by 3 Mar 2016, 10:44

                            I have a set of technical drawing for the seat frame and some photos, so I had a go at modelling up frame and seat pan.
                            seat frame with pan seat frame model
                            seat with pan ac seat jig

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                              ZahariStoyanov
                              last edited by 14 Mar 2016, 12:05

                              Looking forward to seeing where this will go! 😄

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                                db11
                                last edited by 14 Mar 2016, 14:42

                                @garydorn said:

                                For reference , there a number of photos of wooden bucks there were supposedly originally used to hammer out aluminium skins for these bodies.

                                Lots of cool historical car stuff on this thread, but as a woodworker I find these wooden bucks even more compelling as pieces of art than the (gorgeous) auto body that was hammered out on top of them!

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