[Plugin] SectionCutFace

bmike · 10 Feb 2016, 23:56

Thanks Tig. Will test tomorrow.

wiskill · 16 Feb 2016, 01:50

I can't get the section cut faces to update on demand nor auto update. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Here's a video to show the problem.

Whenever I try to update the section cut (or have it auto-updated) it results in a blank cut lines with no faces that doesn't get put in its layers properly.

edit: After multiple retries, with any/either options enabled/disabled or named unnamed sections and everything. I can't get the section face to auto update or update on demand no matter what I do.

Here's a video: https://youtu.be/wYZZQCZ1zTc

From a cleanly new file, I make a simple cube, try to make a section face with only 1 option changed, copy the cube over, remake the face and it won't update properly. All it does is create a new group in layer 0 with just the outline of the cuts. It won't update the layer, it won't make a face, and when I choose remake face again, it just keeps making a new group with the outline again.

Right now when I want to remake a section face, I will always have to delete the old face, THEN make a new one.

I've tried uninstalling sketchup 2014 and 2015, and using leaving only 2016 on my pc. I've tried deleting the plugin folder and reinstalling, and the problem still persists.

I'm totally stumped. Any help appreciated.

davidheritier · 16 Feb 2016, 15:39

Really really good job!!! THx!!!!

TIG · 16 Feb 2016, 19:58

@wiskill

Obviously you are "doing something wrong".
Many others with the same OS and SUp version have no issues.
Different versions of SketchUp NEVER interact, so you don't need to worry about other versions.

Your video is puzzling, since I do the exact same steps, with the exact same set up, AND it refreshes the SectionCutFace as I might hope...

Can you open the Ruby Console before doing anything and see if there any error messages...

Can you also provide a list of all other extensions you have loading...
There might be a [very rare] clash...

wiskill · 17 Feb 2016, 03:34

Here's the error message in from the ruby console.

Error; #<TypeError; no implicit conversion of Sketchup;;Layer into String>
c;/users/wisarut/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2016/sketchup/plugins/sectioncutface/sectioncutface_code.rbs;121;in `name='
c;/users/wisarut/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2016/sketchup/plugins/sectioncutface/sectioncutface_code.rbs;121;in `new'
c;/users/wisarut/appdata/roaming/sketchup/sketchup 2016/sketchup/plugins/sectioncutface/sectioncutface_start.rbs;63;in `block (2 levels) in <module;SectionCutFace>'
SketchUp;1;in `call'

Here's a video showing the error: https://youtu.be/mro1VSwkTBw

I think I don't have any other extensions installed. I used to have LibFredo6 and FredoScale and JointPushPull installed for Sketchup 2015, but when I moved on to Sketchup 2016, I didn't reinstall it as I wasn't using it that much.

Just a short note, I have 2 pcs, (1 desktop and 1 ultrabook) and the problem persists on BOTH machines.

TIG · 17 Feb 2016, 12:37

@wiskill

Thanks for the message and video.
I have managed to replicate your issue.
I am working on a solution...

TIG · 22 Feb 2016, 17:13

Here's v6.0 http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=SectionCutFace it has the following changes:

Glitch/typo fixed with the 'remade' SectionCutFaces - layer error etc as recently reported.

The SectionCutFaces now have modified bounding-boxes, made tight to the face, and their axes are also reset so that their blue axis is perpendicular to the face, with the red axis 'horizontal', and the 'origin' set to a logical lower corner.

An additional option has been added to the dialog and constants file.
'Scene Visibility' - seen the main Documentation for more details...

NOTE: because of the draconian signing regime introduced in v2016, which effectively requires all subfolder Ruby files to be encrypted... some users with SketchUp versions < v2014 have had problems loading newer versions of this extension [and some others...
If that is your case please PM to TIG, who can PM back some fixed RB files for the ../Plugins/SectionCutFace subfolder which will allow ye olde versions of SketchUp to continue working even then...
If you have >= v2014 it should work with no problems !]

JQL · 22 Feb 2016, 18:48

Wow Tig! 2D sketchup! Thank you so much!

Charlie__V · 22 Feb 2016, 20:03

TIG,
First......I am very grateful for all of the plug ins you create and maintain for the community!

I do not use many plug ins myself.......but one I have used for many years now is the section cut face.

I see you have made some nice changes to this so I downloaded and installed V6.0 today.

Surprisingly I immediately got a bug splat after install, and sent the report in.

MS Win7Pro
64-bit OS
Intel i3-2100CPU 3.1GHz
8.0 GB ram

I have since reinstalled V4.4

Just thought you should know.....not sure what the cause could be.

Thank lots,
Charlie

TIG · 22 Feb 2016, 22:44

What is your SUp version ?

No error messages [e.g. in Ruby Console] ?
At what point does it splat ?
On opening the tool or on OK ?
Does it spat on all permutations of the options ??

How did you install the plugin ?
From its RBZ ?
Can you delete all "SectionCutFace" files and its subfolder in the Plugins folder [manually] and then reinstall and restart and see what happens...

I assume an earlier version of the plugin work OK...

Do you have many other plugins installed ?

wiskill · 23 Feb 2016, 13:04

Thanks for the update! Everything seems to work fine now. Any info on what was causing the faces to not update properly? I love the new visibility options btw.

Charlie__V · 23 Feb 2016, 13:21

%(#FF0000)[Tig,
Update:
It appears removing Pipe Along Path V 2.2 20141112 stops the BugSplat on launch described below]

@tig said:

What is your SUp version ?

SU Pro 2016

@tig said:

No error messages [e.g. in Ruby Console] ?
At what point does it splat ?
On opening the tool or on OK ?
Does it spat on all permutations of the options ??

Did not have opportunity to see console, or (new SCF V6.1)options
Splat was/is immediate on launch of SU.

@tig said:

How did you install the plugin ?
From its RBZ ?

Initially I downloaded .rbz to desktop and through SU.....window....preferences....extensions....install(ed) extension.......rbz
Note:I did not uninstall SCF V4.4 prior either. (figured it would just overwrite)

SU did not Bugsplat at this point, however, the options available were the same as in SCF V4.4 and for this reason I closed and re-launched SU.....and immediate Splat.

I Then tried manual install by renaming the .rbz to .zip and deleted SCF folder and SCF ruby file from the 2016 plugins folder, and dragged the contents of the .zip to 2016 plugins folder........launch produced same splat.

@tig said:

Can you delete all "SectionCutFace" files and its subfolder in the Plugins folder [manually] and then reinstall and restart and see what happens...

I did exactly that after second splat, and splat on launch again.

@tig said:

I assume an earlier version of the plugin work OK...

Yes, manual reinstall of SCF V4.4 works fine as before.

@tig said:

Do you have many other plugins installed ?

Maybe five or six, not on that machine right this moment.....will have to report back.

I can try to reproduce later today if you think it will be helpful, and I do recall seeing some text in the bugsplat window that may be helpful for you to see?

Thank You!!

Charlie

TIG · 23 Feb 2016, 16:23

There should be not connection with PipeAlongPath and SectionCutFace - except that I wrote both!

Have you tried re-installing the newest version of PAP [v2.2]

I'll do some more digging though...

Charlie__V · 23 Feb 2016, 18:47

@tig said:

There should be not connection with PipeAlongPath and SectionCutFace - except that I wrote both!...

I did see that.....and I am very appreciative for you having written them....especially since I use very few and found yours to be very helpful to me.(think you wrote 3 out of the six I use)

@tig said:

Have you tried re-installing the newest version of PAP [v2.2]...

I have, and unfortunately the same Bugsplat returns.

@tig said:

I'll do some more digging though...

Please don't spend much time on it for me, I can continue using SCF V4.4 should I need PAP as well.

Thank you,
Charlie

Jack Lowcock · 27 Feb 2016, 21:51

Plugin looks great but once I have created the section cut face I can't Dimension or measure even in layout measurements won't snap to points is there a fix for this

Dave R · 1 Mar 2016, 10:10

Section cut lines are not edges that dimension tools in SketchUp or LayOut can snap to. You could make the edges of the section cut face visible in the UI and dimension to the edges of the face.

wiskill · 9 Mar 2016, 20:28

@dave r said:

Section cut lines are not edges that dimension tools in SketchUp or LayOut can snap to. You could make the edges of the section cut face visible in the UI and dimension to the edges of the face.

Edge detection in sketchup and layout works for me if I enable visible edges. But I'll have to hide the section cuts via layers instead.

rui pedro · 12 Mar 2016, 14:20

i dont understand this plugin, i was expected to close the solid and get as the final result the solid cuted. for example, i made a 3d model of a house, then i cut and use the sectioncutface and then i would like to render that solid cut but i cant...

sorry for me english

JQL · 12 Mar 2016, 22:39

Olá Rui!

You can render the solid cut if you use a supported renderer that works with sketchup sections.

I work with Thea that can do it.

TIG · 13 Mar 2016, 12:26

A few renders will keep section-plane cuts visible in their output.
The ones I know of are Thea and Twilight.
SU Podium has an add-on tool which does something similar, but by making a copy of the model and and then using two operations, much like SectionCutFace AND Zorro2, to add the face, and then cut and delete the rest of the model, you can then render that.
You can mimic that - make a copy of your model - use SectionCutFace to add the face, then use Zorro2 to cut the model at the same section-plane, render that...
Remember to work on a copy, because it does cut up and delete chunks of your model !