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    • A Offline
      aclark
      last edited by

      Will this plugin work with SU2015? I have a large .obj with 219 different UV textures, and so far this hasn't worked (fails to import). Or do I need to be using 2013 in order for the importing and mapping to work appropriately? I get this file to import correctly using SimLab's plugin, but the materials are all wonky because the mapping is incorrect. Any help would be appreciated.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        It works in all currently available SketchUp versions.

        Without the OBJ/MTL/Textures it's difficult to say what your issue is.
        Sometimes OBJ files do not follow the prescribed format and are awkward to parse [e.g. -ve vertex referencing] - although those main variants are catered for already in its code...
        If it ZIPs to <= ~4Mb you can attach it to a Post or a Private-Message...
        Or use a Dropdown etc and PM me a link...

        BUT alternatively you could think about getting Blender [free], importing the OBJ into that, exporting from that as a DAE and finally importing that into your SKP using the native Collada Importer ??
        See if that helps.
        But if that OBJ/MTL/Tetxures is inherently flaky - as your SimLab experience suggests - then perhaps it's inevitable ?

        TIG

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        • F Offline
          fluid
          last edited by

          We just released FluidImporter 3.1.0. You can get it here.

          Here's what's new:

          • Faster import
          • FluidImporter is now a full .rbz extension, with a single file for Windows/OSX
          • You can access FluidImporter funtionality through the menu Extensions -> FluidImporter
          • Added edge smooth option
          • Options are now saved so you don't lose your settings when closing SkechUp
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          • Mike AmosM Offline
            Mike Amos
            last edited by

            I have tried with obj files this week, the import with materials fails to bring all the geometry across and import as geometry loses faces but at least keeps the lines for the geometry. Is there something I can do to get all the geometry?

            Link to models. http://www.colacola.se
            Link to topic http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=81%26amp;t=62675

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I've only looked at one downloadable model.
              The most recently added OBJ [bazze...] is poorly set up.
              There is no units 'clue' in its header.
              There is no call to an MTL file inside the OBJ.
              There is no MTL file - which would be used to define Materials.
              The two images are not referenced, as there is no MTL file to call them - also they typically go inside a subfolder with the OBJ and MTL files...

              So using that you will never get materials included.
              If you guess the units to be 'meters' then all of the geometry might get made...
              With smaller units, any tiny edges will not get created, and any reliant faces will also no make it through...

              TIG

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              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos
                last edited by

                Thanks TIG, I am guessing that as the modeller is European that metres is the correct scale, especially as the subject is reasonably large. I have SOME of the models translated with Turbocad but the older aircraft tend to be more complex and that is where the problems lie.

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                • Mike AmosM Offline
                  Mike Amos
                  last edited by

                  It worked after a few attempts, very slow but that is understandable with all the detail. I will have to work out how to wrap the textures next. Thanks againTIG, I appreciate your quick response.

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                  • erkanE Offline
                    erkan
                    last edited by

                    Hi TIG,

                    I've been using this wonderful plugin for quite a long time, apparently it wouldn't work nicely in 2016 Make (I haven't tested in 2016 Pro) but it's working like a charm in 2015 Pro. So is there a plan to make it work under 2016 Make?

                    When I say it wouldn't work it's not bringing all the geometry, just some random faces from the whole model.

                    Cheers
                    erkan

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      I'm unsure why you are having issues with v2016...
                      It should be compatible, even though its RBZ hasn't yet been signed to run in all v2016's security-policies...
                      I haven't tested it though !
                      So, is the exact same OBJ working differently in v2015 and v2016 ?
                      Can you ZIP the OBJ etc, and PM it to me, so I can test it here...

                      TIG

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                      • faBcnF Offline
                        faBcn
                        last edited by

                        Hi TIG!
                        Thank you so much for the plugin.
                        I finally installed old frecle Tree[D] that I had downloaded when still available... I think it's great and easy to use to generate 3d trees, so your plugin is perfect to be able to import OBJ + Material into my sketchup 2016.
                        Tree[D] is still a MUST HAVE in 2016 or there´s new stuff? vs 3D Tree Maker? Free is better...

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                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                          Bob James
                          last edited by

                          I purchased a model in .obj format from Turbosquid. Within the OBJ folder are .obj files and .mtl files. In addition to the OBJ folder there is a TEXTURES folder containing .tif files.
                          I've tried several ways to import the model into SU. The only time anything was actually imported was when I used "Import as Mesh", but some of the model was missing (size=feet) and there were no textures or materials.
                          OBJ folder content

                          The Cortaderia_variant1.obj file contains identification of the .mtl file:

                          ==========================================================================

                          Wavefront OBJ format exported by Red-i Productions' "Riptide Pro"

                          (a commercial plugin for Cinema 4D PC & Mac, R9.6 or later)

                          Red-i Productions

                          http://skinprops.com

                          ==========================================================================

                          mtllib Cortaderia_variant1.mtl
                          o si3d_0031_leaf01
                          v -0.00283137 0.010224 0.114454
                          v -0.000566467 0.00851267 0.116015
                          v 0.00263311 0.00845039 0.116518
                          v -0.0110162 0.0498717 0.168671
                          v -0.00835776 0.0478127 0.170411
                          v -0.00461871 0.0477404 0.171001
                          v -0.0204793 0.0850494.....................

                          The mtllib Cortaderia_variant1.mtl file contains:

                          ==========================================================================

                          Wavefront Material file

                          Exported by Red-i Productions' "Riptide Pro"

                          (a commercial plugin for Cinema 4D PC & Mac, R9.6 or later)

                          Red-i Productions

                          http://skinprops.com

                          ==========================================================================

                          newmtl default_Mat
                          illum 2
                          Kd 0.800000 0.800000 0.800000

                          newmtl si3d_0031_leaf01
                          Ns 50.781250
                          illum 2
                          Kd 0.800000 0.800000 0.800000
                          map_Kd si3d_0031_leaf01.tif
                          bump si3d_0031_leaf01_rel.tif
                          map_d si3d_0031_leaf01_a.tif

                          newmtl si3d_0031_leaf02
                          Ns 50.781250
                          illum 2
                          Kd 0.800000 0.800000 0.800000
                          map_Kd si3d_0031_leaf02.tif
                          bump si3d_0031_leaf01_rel.tif
                          map_d si3d_0031_leaf01_a.tif

                          etc,
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          .

                          The textures folder contains:
                          Pampas textures.PNG

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @Bob

                            Have you also tried the [faster] Fluid OBJ Importer ?

                            I suspect the OBJ's units are meters ?
                            The vertex spacings seem very small otherwise.

                            Any Ruby Console error messages when importing it ?

                            In my version the mesh option ignores textures - so that's expected.
                            At first glance the MTL materials seem to be defined OK, although the bumps images etc will be ignored.
                            However, the map_Kd si3d_0031_leaf01.tif does NOT include the actual path to the ' textures' folder.
                            I suggest you copy that folders' image files into the main folder with the OBJ and MTL files...
                            Then retry, using meters as the units...

                            Have you tried importing the OBJ into Blender and then exporting it as a DAE.
                            That DAE might then import into a SKP...

                            TIG

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                            • Bob JamesB Offline
                              Bob James
                              last edited by

                              @TIG

                              See this which discusses what I did with your suggestions/comments in mind:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Page not found - Thea Render

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                              Thea Render (www.thearender.com)

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Sorry @Bob I can't access that forum.
                                Can you précis it ?

                                Did it work ?

                                TIG

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                                • romboutR Offline
                                  rombout
                                  last edited by

                                  I got another question about this importer. If im correct it would show vertices or some sort of count in the bottom left corner. It doesnt no more for me on mac, but im not sure if it was with this script 😄🙂

                                  Ive used this script before and always sort of worked. Now i got this model which is in Meters. WHen i import it in Meters nothing happens, at least on mac SU becomes non responding. But thats normal i believe for this script. When i use Inch, it does work only a lot of the mesh is cut off and not showing.

                                  Im using SU8 on osx 10.11.2

                                  EDIT
                                  after checking on using inches again. It does show some progress in the bottom left. It seems with meters some errors apear.

                                  Ive zipped the part with the textures, perhaps you can check or see. If you like
                                  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihpnays8veufcpm/plant%20part.zip?dl=0

                                  EDIT2
                                  When i use inch it also goed much faster. I did let it go now for 20min orso and than it did the meters. Not sure why the difference in time??? Also centimeters go much faster than meter.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    In the bottom left of the status-bar it shows a count of the lines of text it has processed in the OBJ file - in your case:
                                    Processing line 1234 of 139564
                                    About a third of that relate to vertices, the remainder are normal maps, face creation etc.

                                    It took my PC 23 mins to import it in meters [which I believe to be the correct units, though the OBJ file's header does no define any units at all!].
                                    The faces are triangulated and reversed [see screenshot], making the application of materials somewhat pointless... The blue faces are reversed.
                                    It is an enormous file for a small plant - this kind of geometry is not very suited to use in SketchUp - a single plant that is bigger in Mb than many users' entire building projects seems excessive...
                                    It's ~20Mb !
                                    It had three errors that were fixed using statistics - coincident edge vertices - here were no errors in processing reported in the Ruby Console as it was processing...


                                    PlantOBJtest.PNG

                                    TIG

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                                    • romboutR Offline
                                      rombout
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for looking into it. My problem is that i got that timer showing with other models, but with this particular model it doesnt show. BLender doesnt seem to add it metric number, it was indeed meters.

                                      PS why is using inch much faster than meters?

                                      Could i use your tree_fix.rb to get the back material on the mesh?

                                      This is not my model, i would use this as a proxy and use a 2d of this model

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                                      • romboutR Offline
                                        rombout
                                        last edited by

                                        I read somewhere back that someone was testing a updated loading info. Ive tried using his code but got some errors.

                                        How can i change the update response, set it lower, so su is perhaps more responsive?

                                        The normals etc are correct iin this model, they point upwards. Do you think if the dimensions/measurements are added in the OBJ file it would go faster?

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          You could try the 'fix' rb - no promises...

                                          Inches is probably quicker since the read number is taken as inches, otherwise it has to be converted to another unit-system.
                                          Every vertex has x/y/z and there are lots of them so 100k processes add up time-wise !

                                          There is the Fluid OBJ Importer, which is faster as it's written in C, but it is $$$...

                                          TIG

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                                          • romboutR Offline
                                            rombout
                                            last edited by

                                            yes i know, but i always try the crapp out of free before im pushed for the payed.

                                            But you dont have any idea why the count doesnt show up.

                                            Im wondering though how i can get the model inside SU in inches than???

                                            PS OBJ doesnt have a unit or dimension header, did some checkup about that. It only uses 1 1 1 but no measurement system. Thats whats causing all the fuzz about people importing huge models exported from different modelers

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