Time to celebrate SketchUp! Revit reps walk out!

[Bruce Watt]

@pixero said:

Am I the only one who cannot get Plusspec to run?
I've installed on two different PCs and all I get is a error message at startup.
I haven't had support come back with a solution other than to reinstall which I did.
Same thing happens.
Not a good start not being able to make it run...

It install ok for me.

[tomot]

2 issues:

1. I get the following when I go through Firefox to get to your site

This Connection is Untrusted
You have asked Firefox to connect securely to http://www.plusspec.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

2. Looking at your videos. You have the 2 lines indicating the hinge location of the opening window reversed.

[ccaponigro]

@solo said:

@unknownuser said:

Does it work only with imperial units ?

No, both imperial and metric, remember the USA are the only idiots people still using imperial.

For a global monitor that is a pretty cheesy comment.

[solo]

@ccaponigro said:

@solo said:

@unknownuser said:

Does it work only with imperial units ?

No, both imperial and metric, remember the USA are the only idiots people still using imperial.

For a global monitor that is a pretty cheesy comment.

Grow a chin, I'm a Texan and I think it's time we get with it and dump this silly archaic system.

[Krisidious]

Go ahead and pay the BILLIONS of dollars in retooling, retraining and restructuring of the largest construction market in the world. It's happening, but it will take time. Thank Britain for starting us down this road.

[solo]

@unknownuser said:

largest construction market in the world

That would be China at moment, just saying.

[Krisidious]

Yeah they passed us a few years ago... However, China is the worlds largest commercial construction market. Not many people there building their dream home. When you combine residential and commercial we're it. There's not a Home Depot or Lowes on every corner in China. And seeing how they have a billion people compared to our paltry 300 million. I'd add largest construction market per capita. Point being... Our industry is massive, it won't change over night. It's going to take a long time and it has to start with the kids knowing and being comfortable with metric measuring. Which is a pain in the butt on the job site unless every industry is in line with simplified metric sizes... You can't just switch to measuring in metric when everything is made with Imperial in mind. a 4x8 sheet of plywood becomes a 1219 mm × 2438 mm sheet. Those sizes need to be simplified and rounded off. Then you're going to screw the entire remodeling and renovation market. And for what reason? So other countries won't laugh at us? So foreigners will feel more comfortable? What's the point?

[Rich O Brien]

they did it for the aviation industry

but converting over and back between metric and imperial ain't that hard once you get used to it

[Studio Aware]

@tomot said:

2 issues:

2. Looking at your videos. You have the 2 lines indicating the hinge location of the opening window reversed.

Hi Tomot,

How the two lines should be drawn to indicate the hinge location is open to debate - and differs from each architectural practice, state and region. The way the lines have been drawn in PlusSpec is the most widely used method in Australia.

Regards,

Drew

[mk11]

@ccaponigro said:

@solo said:

@unknownuser said:

Does it work only with imperial units ?

No, both imperial and metric, remember the USA are the only idiots people still using imperial.

For a global monitor that is a pretty cheesy comment.

But true! The truth hurts

[KrisM]

The US isn't the only country using the imperial system. In Canada, we use both.
The surveyor works in metric.
We order concrete in cubic metres.
We order gravel in cubic yards.
The house is built imperial.
If it is a commercial or government job, it's probably built metric.
Most of the common materials are imperial since a lot are exported to the US or imported from the US.
Canada tried switching over to metric 30 years ago but never carried through because most of our lumber and plywood is exported to the US.
My son was only taught metric in school and didn't know anything about imperial measurement when he came onto our jobsites in the summer.
I don't have a problem with either system but it would be nice to use just one.
Keeps you on your toes.

[tomot]

@studio aware said:

@tomot said:

How the two lines should be drawn to indicate the hinge location is open to debate - and differs from each architectural practice, state and region. The way the lines have been drawn in PlusSpec is the most widely used method in Australia.

Drew

Is this related to water running down the drain anticlockwise
It would be a BIG problem in North America, I would hate to have windows
arrive on site, installed and then discover the openings are reversed.
That could be an expensive mistake!

[TIG]

In the UK [and I think most of EU?] the 'point' of the two [dotted] lines is always on the hinge-side of the opening-sash...
If the pivot is located 'off-center' like in an easi-clean window, then the 'point' stops short of the hinge-stile, aligned with the 'pivot-point'...

[mitcorb]

And so it has been in my corner of the US

[davesec]

why in god's name is the setup file asking me to have internet explorer 9 installed

[jiminy-billy-bob]

why in god's name do you still have an older version than IE9

[Rob D]

I had a similar experience 5 years ago when I went to a free training day which turned out to be just a big advert for Revit. That's fair enough as they were paying, but having demonstrated Revit and then failed miserably to render it despite having 10 macbook pros daisy chained to do the render (notice these people have cash to throw around), the floor opened to discussion, and to my surprise everyone just wanted to talk about SketchUp. It was obvious even back then that tools like Revit were losing out seriously because of a CAD program that cost a twentieth of one Revit seat. Similarly at the IT for Construction conference, probably about 8 years ago now, the SketchUp stand was being mobbed and the Revit demonstrations were looking woefully inadequate.

[davesec]

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

why in god's name do you still have an older version than IE9

i don't use internet explorer like 99% of the rest of the world, so i never got around to updating it

the only people who use ie are old people with dementia and communists

[jiminy-billy-bob]

I agree, but there is a reason softwares get updated. Why are you surprised that such an old version is not supported anymore?

[highlander]

Plusspec,

I was chosen to find out what software to use for BIM.
At the office I work everyone was telling me about Revit and that's the program we have to use. I want to show them that it's possible with SU.
But still have a lot of questions.

1. What about manufacturers in Europe (The Netherlands).

2. I want to create my own profiles for the windows/doors, is that possible? We do a lot of restoration projects and nothing is standard.

3. Same with the walls.

4. If A builder uses the exported IFC file (from SU) can he continue with that file (in REVIT, Archicad etc.), can he extract quantities from the objects, time schedule etc. etc. and does 3rth parties like a constructor (structural engineer) can use/adjust the model for their proceedings.

5. When I make a window is it possible to tag that window (automatically), and I want to use them to make a window plan with the windows separately in front view/plan view/section (see attachment). Is this possible?

6. Room tags with area information (m2 and m3).

7. Translation in Dutch. Is there a translation or can we do that our selfs.

8. Does someone in The Netherlands already make use of Plusspec? Is there a way to contact them or are they on the forum.

9. Line thickness, will that be implemented with LOD?

10. Is section pattern (like Skalp) possible for all the elements like wall, framing, structural concrete etc. etc.

11. When I buy a license, how is the updating process arranged. Is it a 1 time investment or does it come with a maintenance (like SU). It's not very clear on the site, only $795,-

Okay I think this is it for the moment. But I just got the trial so there will be more questions.

Sander

ps. also posted this reply in http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=57343%26amp;start=60

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Window plan