Unreal 4 Engine

iichiversii

I agree, Unreal4 is beautiful, but cryengine looks even better imo, but the simplicity of Unity is second to none, Unity is growing fast is the preferred game engine to indie game developers, over the last 5 yrs Unity has changed so much and i can see it dominating all game engines in the future, i also agree with the UV mapping in SU, its so behind the times and should be addressed, but this is an argument that's been going on for yrs, Google and now Trimble never saw the benefits of SU for game development, iv seen Naughty dog, cloud imperium, and even Kens beautiful models used for sim city and Rift, all developed in SU first, then used in other 3D applications like Maya or 3D Max to be cleaned up for game use, i designed I,Marble in SU, textured and so on all in SU, never did i bring it into other applications other than Unity, but it did have some problems, but workable, the game turned out better than i taught, but 5 yrs ago SU was unusable in game engines, it just wasn't compatible, but its changing slowly, i don't think Trimble really care for game development so they more than likely wont develop it further for us game developers, its a pity tho, i even see that there has been an SU game developers stand at the last two basecamps, i believe Trimble need to look into this not just for game developers but i can see rendering engines being obsolete in the not so distant future and replaced with game engines, game engines are so much better, not because they are free to use but because we can see our creations in a virtual environment, iv even used my models in an environment where you can experience it using the oculus rift, a virtual reality headset, and its amazing, Facebook even bought out the company this yr for 2 billion, if they see potential then why don't we, i can see this also being used for showcasing a virtual plan of a house before its even built in the real world, i'm currently working on a virtual game for the oculus rift and all models are developed in SU, in fact i joined a community for indie game developers and i haven't come across any indie game companies that don't use SU, Trimble need to wake up and smell the coffee, make it more game friendly, UV friendly, most think that game engines only use quads, they don't, all game engines convert quads to tris, the most basic of polygons, quads are only an illusion in other 3D applications, UV mapping is the main issue, i could talk for hrs about this topic but im gonna let it go because in reality Trimble wont do anything about it, unless a memeber of the SU team can prove me wrong and tell us different, i hope they do

cmeed

dont be quite just yet....
what is the issue with SU uvs? i know very little about what the differences are between a model created in Maya with its uv's and a model created in SU exported with the fbx exporter. do you? is it a situation that a plugin wizard could look at? Playup created a plugin for SU to udk, but don't think theres much happening last time i looked for unreal4.

Cryengine looks great, unreal looks great, unity a close third - can you get reflections in unity? i saw candela... seen that?

I'm thinking exactly like yourself regarding modern game engines and their rendering power becoming the norm. i want the reflections, textures, atmosphere particles and a little animation to impress clients in meetings about what we've designed. (mostly Award shows and TV sets designs....thats all)

solo

Cryengine eye candy.

http://vimeo.com/18439821

cmeed

nice...

AdamB

For a bit of fun, I recreated one of these in SketchUp this morning. Came out pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DHXDIvZvWU

iichiversii

Adsm s that just using lightup or in unity? im aware lightups lighting can be imported directly into unity and textures can also be baked, can you link us to a tutorial on how to do these, nice render btw

cadmunkey

Very impressive Adam, love the materials. Is the depth of field an option in Lightup?

AdamB

@iichiversii said:

Adsm s that just using lightup or in unity? im aware lightups lighting can be imported directly into unity and textures can also be baked, can you link us to a tutorial on how to do these, nice render btw

Its just modelled in SketchUp and rendered in LightUp.

Yes, you can export your lit model from LightUp using Autodesk FBX which will be automatically ingested into Unity.
Or you can export as Collada DAE.

There is a very old video tutorials showing exporting to Unity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNI2RjNsRwY)
I'll see if I can cook up a new one using the latest version of LightUp and Unity.

AdamB

@cadmunkey said:

Very impressive Adam, love the materials. Is the depth of field an option in Lightup?

Yes, during Tourtool you can adjust the Depth of Field using the DOF slider. The focus point is taken in the direction the camera is pointing and marked by a small red circle on the surface that is being focused.

You can lock the current focus distance by clicking on the small padlock icon. You can then change your view direction but have a fixed focus distance.. So the workflow was to look at the floor tiles, lock focus distance and then look at the wall further away with the result that the floor is sharply in focus, the walls are blurred.

AdamB

Here's a (realtime) video of how the model was rigged ready for exporting movies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc6z2VmH03E

Krisidious

Very nice Adam... I ran both movies side by side and saw little difference that wasn't modeling.

cmeed

Adam They look Great!
Does Lightup have the ability regarding textures to ..... mmm how to explain it (they'll be a word or phase for it) so in Koolaas the textures reflect a roughness so some parts reflect smooth and some rough. the corridor for instance in the movie shows this

heres another example of Unreal 4 - its german
http://www.gamestar.de/videos/trailer,3/unreal-engine-4,76683.html

c

cmeed

here it is found it on youtube

http://youtu.be/gC0PdspqNYk

cmeed

Another Koolaa inspired by RobertPencil

http://youtu.be/EHR8CwY1drY

AdamB

@cmeed said:

Adam They look Great!
Does Lightup have the ability regarding textures to ..... mmm how to explain it (they'll be a word or phase for it) so in Koolaas the textures reflect a roughness so some parts reflect smooth and some rough. the corridor for instance in the movie shows this

heres another example of Unreal 4 - its german
http://www.gamestar.de/videos/trailer,3/unreal-engine-4,76683.html

c

Sure, its called a specular map and controls which parts of the texture reflect. LightUp creates one automatically for you from your base texture based on grayscale brightness. If you need (or have) something different, you can set a filename with an image. See this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22FSi1aT2bg (around 10m30s in).

Adam