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    [Plugin] Boolean--OSCoolean (Dec 2013) for SU 8 up free ver

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    • J Offline
      joergber
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I do have a problem with this plugin ...

      Pls. have a look at the attached file!

      I would like to subtract "sub_1" and in a second step "sub_2" from "main".

      But unfortunately it does not work ...

      Many thanks in advance!!!!

      Jรถrg


      aufnahme_001.skp

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        The problem isn't with the plugin, it's with your model.
        It is very small and has hundreds of tiny segments/facets.
        SketchUp's tolerance can't cope with making geometry <~1/1000th"...
        Two points defining the ends of a tiny line can be deemed to be coincident and then no line gets created, and then its face can't exist etc...

        If you scale everything up x1000... it will then 'subtract' OK.
        Afterwards scale down 0.1 and 0.01 [two steps] so it's back to it's original size... OR use the tapemeasure tool and pick two points you know should be 10mm apart and then immediately type 10mm and reply Yes to scaling etc... to rescale back...

        Tiny geometry can exist [like after scaling down] but it can't be made initially.


        Capture.PNG

        TIG

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        • J Offline
          joergber
          last edited by

          1000 thx!

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          • OscarLokO Offline
            OscarLok
            last edited by

            Hello TIG

            I would like to know that is the SketchUp's tolerance matter be solved if I scale everything up x1000, then do the boolean lastly scale everything down in the OSCoolean for every cases, please?

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            • jolranJ Offline
              jolran
              last edited by

              I wonder too.

              But is it not possible to bump vertices position out of Sketchup's tolerance while scaling geometry ? That must affect intersections and such too, not only the factor of edges length.

              Still trying to wrap my head around this..

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @Oscar

                It will usually work. ๐Ÿ˜•
                BUT remember that SketchUp also has issues in the other direction - so both very tiny and very gigantic sizes can cause issues...

                In my recent Pro only 'CutNfill' tool I used a scale-up/intersect/scale-down, but only if the processed object's bounds.diagonal are smaller that a specific size [of the top of my head I think it's 100.m].
                That way I never make it so big that I get issues in the opposite direction from 'tiny'...

                Because your tool is used on a wide variety of forms... perhaps you could have a scale factor of x1000 for very tiny objects, x100 for medium size, x10 for large and x1 for overly large... ๐Ÿ’ญ

                TIG

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                • T Offline
                  togethearth
                  last edited by

                  For me, it was working for SU8 but not 2013.
                  I removed some plugins from the SU2013 plugin folder and identified sketchyphysics as not compatible with OsCoolean.
                  It may happens with other plugins too because of badly named variables usually.

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    SketchyPhysics and some other 'rogue' plugins are know to cause issues, because they mess with native classes/methods ill-advisedly... sometimes messing with the way some Group methods work, others have Observers that can cause issues too...
                    Then an innocent third-party plugin can fail or even cause SketchUp to BugSplat [it's usually a 'rogue' observer that splats!].

                    There's a rogue / quarantine list...

                    TIG

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      So make some special Plugins folders with only sketchyphisics, Windowizer,... inside! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Just careful to not lost the original Plugins folder! ๐Ÿค“

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                      • kmlkrkK Offline
                        kmlkrk
                        last edited by

                        Hi, does your extension work in SketchUp 2014? I have successfully installed it, added buttons to my toolbar but I can't use it in any way. I tried making my objects to be groups and components, I tried selecting them first and tried clicking on plugin's button first. Nothing ever happens.
                        What am I doing wrong?
                        I would greatly appreciate your help!

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                        • kmlkrkK Offline
                          kmlkrk
                          last edited by

                          In addition to my previous comment: in case that this plugin does not work with SketchUp 2014, does anybody know where can I download SketchUp 2013? It is no longer hosted on official downloads page
                          Thanks

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            All versions are available to download http://www.sketchup.com/download/all

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              If you PM the author with some useful data, then he might be able to easily update his plugin to be v2014 compatible.
                              Unfortunately you decided to give none of us any clue at all as to the errors you encountered.
                              Naturally these might be helpful when formulating a fix...
                              This particular plugin is encrypted as rbs, so we can't see what it's doing internally...
                              But most Plugins can be easily updated and re-encrypted to suit all SketchUp versions...

                              TIG

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                              • kmlkrkK Offline
                                kmlkrk
                                last edited by

                                @box said:

                                All versions are available to download http://www.sketchup.com/download/all

                                Unfortunately that page does not have a link for SketchUp Make 2013. Only the pro version. However I already found a way to download 2013 version and I will be using it for now.
                                However, it would be amazing if this great plugin worked for 2014 version. Many thanks to developer for his hard work!

                                EDIT: Looks like I can't open model built in SketchUp 2014 in 2013 version ๐Ÿ˜ž I will wait and hope that the developer releases update to his plugin soon. Thanks

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                                • kmlkrkK Offline
                                  kmlkrk
                                  last edited by

                                  Hey Tig, sorry for not including any errors. I am newbie in SketchUp and I did not see any error messages. The tool just does nothing ๐Ÿ˜ž Is there a way to generate a log of errors? I will be more than happy to help get this working for 2014 version!

                                  EDIT: Nothing shows up in ruby console. No errors there. Not sure where else to look

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                                  • BoxB Offline
                                    Box
                                    last edited by

                                    @kmlkrk said:

                                    EDIT: Looks like I can't open model built in SketchUp 2014 in 2013 version ๐Ÿ˜ž

                                    You can save as back to earlier versions.
                                    Open the file in 2014, go save as and select the earlier version in the drop down.

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                                    • kmlkrkK Offline
                                      kmlkrk
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks Box, this worked like a charm!

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                                      • BoxB Offline
                                        Box
                                        last edited by

                                        A quick video just to confirm that it isn't working correctly in 2014, what it does and that it's not throwing errors.

                                        [screenr:1u3xtnlw]unUN[/screenr:1u3xtnlw]

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          I got in touch with Oscar last December to warn him that this tool would be incompatible with a future version of SketchUp - his encrypted RBS is based on an ANSI encoded file rather than a UTF8-without-BOM one - there might also be some other masked syntax issues !
                                          But he knows how to fix it, although he replied and said that he wouldn't do it until the new version of SketchUp [v2014] appeared this spring - as he was busy with other things...
                                          Why not PM him - he needs a nudge...
                                          I don't think it'd be that hard to make cross-version compatible - mainly changing the encoding of his RB version and re-encrypting it for the RBS ๐Ÿ˜•

                                          TIG

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                                          • kmlkrkK Offline
                                            kmlkrk
                                            last edited by

                                            I sent him a PM yesterday politely asking if he would be able to update his plugin to work with SketchUp 2014.

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