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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      Try EEby Rails...
      If you use the same Profile at the start and end of ONE Rail then it will sweep along that Rail [pick the same rail twice].
      If you set the profiles non-orthogonally to the model axes [or to each other] then the sweep is 'skewed'.
      You could also try Fredo's CurviLoft for similar results...EEbyRAIL.PNG

      TIG

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        Maybe one image from you will be more useful and speedy and avoid any reseach by ourselves ! πŸ˜‰
        Moi to Sketchup πŸ˜„
        I believe that you can make the same but in several parts with the existing plugins from Tig or Fredo!
        rail revolve.jpg

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • T Offline
          tambox
          last edited by

          I want to this in one shot or easier way is possible.

          In Rhino I can do this and more:
          I can put the axis of rotation out of the center of the basis shape
          I can have the axis of rotation not perperdicular to the basis shape
          I can have the basis shape not on one plan but a 3d profile

          thank you in advance for your solution


          RailRevolve5.jpg


          RailRevolve6.jpg

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            .

            depending on the desired shape, you may be able to use the followMe tool to do a rail revolve:

            revolve.jpg

            @tambox said:

            I need to turn followingan irregular shape, not a circle; and the second issue is to incline the axis of rotation in a non perpendicular direction - please see a tutorial image or video "Rail revolve" of rhino

            I don't believe it works with tool you suggested...

            to do an off-centered or non-perpendicular revolve axis, you should probably just use rhino.. πŸ˜‰

            railrev.jpg

            (or- set up multiple profiles of the shape at various locations along the path then loft it with curviloft.. this may or may not be possible with your desired revolve.. upload a .skp for better advice)

            dotdotdot

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            • T Offline
              tambox
              last edited by

              this solid in picture is made by a real lathe with axis of rotation out of center and inclined, the spindle move along a rail profile.
              in Rhino after designing the basis "rail" profile (2d or 3d), designing the axis rotation in one shot make this with "rail revolve" in one shot.

              please tell me all the steps to follow in sketchup with a geometrical control of basis figures (1-rail profile, 2-section path, 3-rotation axis), without slicing in many parts


              rail revolve  sample.JPG

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                why don't you use rhino to do this? seems like the best way-- especially if you're looking for fastest/easiest/most accurate..

                dotdotdot

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                • T Offline
                  tambox
                  last edited by

                  I don't want to leave sketch-up for Rhino; I designed these shape with sketchup with much effort using only starting from rail profile basis push-pull + scale sveral times to follow the path preferred and editing free hands the model. When a friend of mine sowed me Rhino does it in one shot command I got crazy.. It is a challenge to do it in sketchup.
                  Is there a good guy able to set up a plug in similar to "push-pull and scale following a path" (and an axis)?

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                  • T Offline
                    tambox
                    last edited by

                    if we have a push-pull and scale following a path of a 3d basis rail ( I mean a plan figure in 3d like a chipster) we can do it!

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                      tambox
                      last edited by

                      here is a .skp file and jpg files showing as follow-me doesn't work but push/pull+scale work but working in a very slow way


                      Base and profile.skp


                      1.jpg


                      2.jpg

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Why you don't make the inverse in your special case? πŸ˜‰

                        Take the horinzontal section then make a little vertical loft!
                        I believe that Curviloft by Fredo can make that!
                        Take a face start (your section), a face end (any what you want )and your profile as path! πŸ˜‰

                        Ps Post your file as V6 for a more large audiance! πŸ˜‰

                        Try also Lss Toolbar by Kirill2008

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • T Offline
                          tambox
                          last edited by

                          Thank you Pilou,
                          As Jeff suggested I'd need to set up in size and position my basis horizontal and connect them two each time with curviloft, but it is too long for my design as in samples I posted where I solved simply with repeated pull/push+scale.... I search something to short this process

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            you might be able to do your example fairly quickly with curviloft's sweep function (the middle icon in its toolbar)

                            if you duplicate your profile curve and mirror it to the other side of the path then use the two profiles as rails, it should give the desired results. I'm on a phone right now- I'll try it out later.

                            dotdotdot

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                            • massimoM Offline
                              massimo Moderator
                              last edited by

                              This is curviloft, as jeff suggested. Is it what you want to achieve?
                              I've simplified the profile because there was a ton of segments.
                              Cattura.JPG
                              Base and profile.skp

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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                right.. like that ^

                                dotdotdot

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                                • T Offline
                                  tambox
                                  last edited by

                                  thank you guys,

                                  I'm proud that help arrived from Italy to Italy!

                                  Now let's try to shake it tilting the shapes or modify the basis figure in 3d shape

                                  thank you for your helps

                                  all the best to you

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    My vertical method with always Curviloft! πŸ˜„

                                    Thickness is not straight inside!

                                    vertical_method.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • massimoM Offline
                                      massimo Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      I'm proud that help arrived from Italy to Italy!

                                      Well I don't know if Jeff has some Italian ancestor. πŸ˜‰

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @massimo said:

                                        I don't know if Jeff has some Italian ancestor. πŸ˜‰

                                        The Borgias.

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                        • T Offline
                                          tambox
                                          last edited by

                                          please give me setting of curviloft in this case: method? geometry?.... or a screenshot of your vedeo
                                          thank you from italy

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Something like this πŸ˜„

                                            Separate the Profile (welded) for a better easy selection of the segments!
                                            Select the profil
                                            Select the surface
                                            (click twice on the middle of the surfaces - zoom it)

                                            Click Twice on the empty Space

                                            And curiously prefere an horizontal "profil"! (so just a rotation from my previous post! πŸ˜‰

                                            Thickness will follow the skin!

                                            imago.jpg

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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